Pin gap with 200gr points?

[whiskeysierra762]

Pin gap with 200gr points? Update in OP.

Im considering switching to a 200gr fixed blade broadhead for Elk in OR this year.
I currently use an Axcel Armortech 7pin sight (20-80yds) on a PSE Vendetta XL 70lb, with Blue Streak Selects and 100gr points at 315fps.
For those of you who have made the switch to heavier arrows or points, how much more pin gap should I expect?
My concern is that I won't have enough room in the sight to use all 7 pins. Or that I will end up with pins in 5yd increments instead of 10yds. I would like to still be able to have an 80yd pin.
This has me looking at switching to the Axcel AccuTouch Carbon Pro 5 pin slider.

Any thoughts or advice is appreciated.

Update 6/22/17
I finally got a day to go sight in with the 200gr field points.
I set my pins at 30,40,50,60,70 yards. With the head set on the second accu-stop. If move the head up to the first accu-stop my 30yd pin becomes a 20yd pin. Then the 3rd accu-stop moves my bottom pin to 80, 4th acc-stop moves my bottom pin to 90yd and so on to 110yd. The accu-stops are close enough together that I can split them as well. So if move the head in-between accu-stop 2 and 3 it gives me 5yds onto each pin. So, the pins become 35, 45, 55, 65, and 75 yards. Once I get everything perfect to 100yd I will find a matching sight tape sticker and put that on as well. Since I will also be doing some 3D shooting as practice.

 

[AKMAN]

I do 200s in front of 75 grain brass on my 70 lb Halon 32 for a total arrow weight of just a bit over 600 grains.
Right now at 65-66 lbs, I have a 5 pin set at 20, 30, 40, 50 and the 5th pin is buried on the bottom of the sight out of the way.
I had to move my 20 to the top of the housing and bring the whole thing down to get there.

At 45 yards I can probably fit a deer in between the pins.

Edit: If I thought I was ever going to shoot at game over 40 yards with these, a slider would be helpful.
It's a little tougher to gap shoot when you're pins are that far apart; I can shoot much better with a pin to put on the target...

 

[Blockcaver]

Shoot what you want, but in my opinion a 420 - 470 gr arrow is great for elk with a bow like yours. Through the years I've shot around 38 elk with the bow. The weight is adequate for good penetration and the trajectory is decent too. That said I killed elk just fine at 375 grs and up to about 530 grs maximum. I never hunted elk with heavier arrows and won't start now.

With a 7 pin should be able to get 80 yards with an arrow going 275 fps based on my experience running the top pin high and bottom pin at the bubble. A slider is agood option too.

 

[MattB]

If you are switching from 100 gr. to 200 gr. points on the same arrows, your concern should be about dynamic spine.

 

[whiskeysierra762]

Akman,
What do you think about a 5 pin slider with the pins 5yds apart? 30,35,40,45,50 and then slide after that?

 

[Jmock97]

I am shooting 200 grain cutthroat broadheads with a hoyt nitrum 34 29.5 draw 57lb 30" black eagle carnivores 300 spine total arrow weight with broadheads is 543 grains I run a spot hogg 5 pin Pins are set at 20,30,40,50,60 and set the top of the bubble at 80.

 

[whiskeysierra762]

I ordered a 5pin Axcel Accutouch and some 100gr weights to add behind my 100gr field points. I will try to post a review soon.

 

[AKMAN]

What do you think about a 5 pin slider with the pins 5yds apart? 30,35,40,45,50 and then slide after that?

That almost exactly what I had intended to do, but after some good advice on here and a bit of trial and error, the 5 yard pin gaps proved to be a bit cluttered for me. With 30/35 being inside the "ring", I doubt I'd be ranging, making the 5 yard increment sorta worthless.
For my fixed 5 pin, I'm thinking about going to 20,30,40,45,50. (At 40-50 I'd have time to range)
But I have a very specific "design criteria"...
As a reminder, my Halon 32 is set up 100% for calling moose, on the ground in brush & black spruce, and I won't shoot past 50 no matter the circumstance. If I was hunting from a stand, more open terrain, or smaller critters, the adjustment would be more beneficial.

I think with arrows at 600 or above (which many folks are super opposed to anyway ) a 3 pin with the ability to slide for 40+ would be just about perfect.
(thought this posted yesterday but never pushed go; the autosave feature is cool.)

Looking forward to your thoughts on the 200s!

 

[whiskeysierra762]

Quick Update.
I took my bow to the shop today and paper tuned it with 200gr field points on my 350 spine Maxima Blue Streaks. We cut them down about an inch and a half which stiffened the shaft enough for a good paper tune, but it will put the Brodhead about center of the shelf. I also got the Accutouch leveled and I will be sighting it in this weekend hopefully. When I get the pins sighted in I will try to post pictures.

 

[5MilesBack]

Given your specs shooting at 315fps, you're shooting 26fps faster than me with my 532gr arrows with 125's. If you get the average 1fps for every 3grains of arrow weight loss, your 200gr head will put you almost identical to my speed. And I use a 7-pin SH Hunter with pins set from 20-80 just fine. The biggest thing would be dynamic spine, but it appears you've got that figured out. I shoot with my BH's directly over the shelf as well.

 

[cooperjd]

i use heavier arrows, but with 120gr worth of inserts and footer, plus a 125gr head, i still use a 7pin spot hogg set 20-80. thats 641gr arrows right at 275fps. i dont know what your total arrow weight is, but in my experience after crossing around 500gr, you lose 1fps for every 4gr of arrow weight gained, so you may not lose quite as much velocity as you think. i would not think you have a stiff enough arrow, but if you're getting it to tune you're probably GTG.

 

[whiskeysierra762]

Updated in original post

 

[5MilesBack]

You have a bigger gap between your 40 and 50 than between your 50 and 60.

 

[whiskeysierra762]

You have a bigger gap between your 40 and 50 than between your 50 and 60.

I still need to do some fine tuning. I was just getting a rough setting to begin with to see how much yardage I was going to get out of the sight with the 200 gr points. My 30, 40, and 70yd pins are dead nuts, the others were close but not perfect. If I wasn't going to get 100yds out of the sight I wasn't going to keep it.