6.5 Creedmoor vs 7mm Rem Mag-Recoil

[Nuke Man]

My 10 year old daughter has 0 recoil issues with my Ruger American Predator. It's not braked either. The 6.5 is a dream to shoot. I've never shot a 7mm so can't comment on the difference.

 

[Muley Buck]

Recoil calculator will tell a lot.

The numbers don't lie, a 243 is probably ur best option with no brake. It will absolutely no be too much recoil. A 6.5 might tho

Assuming 7.5 pound rifles the 140's from 7.5 rifle should giv u about 13 ft lbs free recoil energy vs ur 7mm's 23 or so..

Now this is where it gets "fun"

A 243 would top out at about 10flt lbs with a 105 but an 85gr bullet at
3000 fps would be down to 7 or so. H4896 would offer even lower loads

Or brake any other 308 base round with 120 to 140 grain bullet. And be down to that 6 to 8 range.

Ultimately its a coin flip but I think brake is a better long term option. Muzzlebrakesandmore or lil Basra d should reduce 13 lbs recoil to about 6 and ur placing less demands on the bullet to function properly.

Or last option is spin up so 120gr ballistic tips over a light charge and brake the gun and u can avoid a whole bunch of hassle with buying a new gun.

125gr over 55grains in a tikka super light 300 with a brake was probably was easier on the pad then an over gassed m4gery with 75 bullets

Very nice, good info. Thank you. I won't put a brake on my 7mm, I don't like them especially for hunting. Although, I might end up putting a brake on it for the Mrs. to shoot at the range. Come season though I'd like to have a threaded cap instead. Muzzle brakes bug me in the field. On top of all of that she's a lefty so I'm buyin her, her own.

 

[elkduds]

My 270 Stevens weighs 6#, Mark X Mauser in 7 Rem mag weighs 9#. W 140 gr in 270 and 160 gr in the 7, felt recoil is near equal. Lighter guns kick harder, even in milder calibers.

 

[Ndbowhunter]

thw nice thing about a muzzle brake is it can always come off..

With a threaded brake I've never noticed a poi shift even at long range with them on or off.

The reduced recoil ammo from hornady will give you a great idea of what a 6.5 creedmoor will recoil like for 30$ or so.

And to be honest that stuff matches up ballistically pretty damn well too.

Another thought.

 

[philthy57]

Does anyone else use a PAST recoil shoulder pad on the range besides me? I use one when I shoot my Tikka T3 Lite in 300WSM without a brake and it makes a world of difference. You might consider the $30 or so for your wife when you're on the range. I did pick up a 6.5CM Hells Canyon Speed last ear and that little rifle is a dream to shoot!

 

[mtmuley]

I use a PAST at the range with hard kickers. Keeps me from needing a muzzle brake. Don't have any brakes now, and don't want any. I'd take the loaded down 7mm over the Creed though. mtmuley

 

[Slymongoose]

My 12 year old boy shoots my 6.5CM at the range and has no issue with it and will be using it this fall for elk. It does have a limb saver on it tho. One thing I do on the range for some of his shots is to use a lead sled to reduce the recoil while practicing so he doesn’t develop a flinch for the Recoil. I think a 6.5CM would be a great gun for your wife.

 

[cooperjd]

my own personal experiences with both...however, they are 2 very different rifles...

7mag: rem700, B&C stock, approx 9lbs; blackhawk cheek pad, limbsaver pad. 160gr accubonds at around 3025 fps.

6.5 C: Thompson center Dimension. approx 8lbs. 130gr accubonds ~2800 or factory norma match 130gr at 2775 fps.

because these rifles are very different, but both fit me very well, neither of them has what i would call "significant" recoil. I can shoot a couple of boxes of the 7mag on a given range day and not be bothered. the stock fits me well, the cheekpiece helps mitigate felt recoil, and the nice pad helps.

However, i can dang near watch my impacts with the creedmoor. Even though the 7 is not painful for me, the difference in actual movement of the rifle is pretty significant. the creedmoor is a real kitten.

if the 7 bites your wife, i would get her the creed. developing bad shooting habits is no bueno.

none of my rifles wear a brake.

 

[freediver111]

Just adding my 2 cents for the heck of it simply because I've been shooting a 6.5 and a 7mm recently.

I have a Savage 6.5 and my buddy just got a Remington 700 Long Range in 7mm. My 6.5 weighs around 12 lbs. all set, and my buddies probably weighs a little more, maybe 13 lbs. Not scale checked, just a "good" guess.

I can go to the range and regularly shoot 40-50 rounds in a half day with my 6.5. After helping my buddy set-up his 7mm and shooting 12 or so rounds for fun, I feel it. I wouldn't want to shoot more than a box through the 7mm at a time, whereas the 6.5 is pretty tame.

Just my thoughts after playing with them last weekend. Using 143 ELD-X on the 6.5 hand loaded with RL26 getting 2900 fps with a 26" pipe. The 7mm had factory ammo in the 162 grain ELD-X variety going around 3100 fps with a 26" pipe.

 

[Muley Buck]

Well, I'd like to thank you all for the insight and help that you have given me. I appreciate it! I ended up ordering a Tikka T3 X Lite stainless (LH) chambered in 6.5 creedmoor for my wife. I think she (and I) will have fun with it. Possibly stand by for more help threads concerning this! Thanx again everybody!