Camslameron
FNG
Maybe someone fudged up, maybe vortex is just marked that much up, either way I got what i'm considering a steal on some vortex razor 12x50's on optics planet ebay store. You'll find some auctions have a buy it now price with a "make best offer" option. I offered what I thought was the worst price and they didn't even counter, they just accepted my 600 dollar offer... 1500 MSRP, retail for 1100, I paid 600, brand spankin new. You can't beat that, not with a stick! They can be a pain to deal with. I waited 3 weeks for a rifle scope I bought from them, but this was a good enough deal to give it another whirl.