Of course you are not alone. I agree with what you said too. Where I "think" we differ is I won't associate with or donate money to a group that supports one issue I support if they support other groups or issues that are against another issue that means a lot to me. For instance say for sake of argument BHA supports anti hunting groups (I don't know if they do or don't) and public access. BHA and I would agree that having public land open for recreation is good. However, I would not associate with them or donate money to them because they support anti hunting groups. I would not like BHA, because they support anti hunting groups, if they really did. I "think" that's our divide. Also, I would support conservative politicians that were pro land transfer if they were pro hunting, pro 2nd Amendment, and fiscaly conservative. However, if there were 2 conservative politicians who's only dufference was that one was bought by oil companies or ranchers and voted for their interests at the cost of the many or the people, I would support the one who supports the people. For me the public land issue is probably the least of my concerns in politics. I'll admit, I'm biased, because I live in California and am yearning for conservativeness. If I lived in a conservative state like Idaho, I'd be furious with the politicians who voted in that stupid trespass law. I'm considering not moving to Idaho, because of that.
Would you still support them if they support anti hunting groups? I won't.
I don't think they are fake hunters. I'd figure they are real hardcore hunters. Public lands aren't the most important issues to me right now. I believe it's real important to develop our resources and build new dams and reservoirs etc. I don't believe our public lands are really under attack in a big way. However, I live in California and am a mobile hunter. I can see if your favorite hunting ground access got cut off you'd be mad. I've had that happen to me and don't get mad if it's for some new power line or energy project.
You are dodging my question. Will you still support those same people if they support anti hunting groups. It's ok if you do or don't. I won't. Don't get me wrong we are all complicated and some things that are black and white to me could be complicated to you and visca versa.
I was brought up that way. My dad was a land developer and my first degree was in geology, because I wanted to get a job in Wyoming with an oil company and hunt on the weekends. I could possibly be wrong about our public lands being under attack. However, I believe a lot more should be opened up for deveopment. Think of it this way James Watt was my favorite Secretary of the Interior. I idolized him more than Reagan. If you are too young to remember google him. That's just the way I roll. I like to think I'm open minded. I was wrong about the Republicans in Idaho on the trespassing issue. That's got me fired up. I know all conservatives are perfect, especially the politicians. You guys did sway me over to the public land issue a bit. I can move on issues, I have been wrong before and will be wrong sometimes. Thanks Bill
Right, I figure your experience is vastly different than mine. I might agree with you completely if I'd lived in your shoes. What concerns me about you is you won't answer my simple answer. Would you support a group that supports public lands and anti hunting? Not answering my question is a huge red flag to me. If you answer yes, or people who do are one issue hunters, according to me. Also, you don't get that public lands does mean something to me. They mean much, much more to you. That's what I mean when I say you are a one issue hunter. Maybe I'm using the wrong term? Maybe I'm real naive too?
Nope you haven't or I'm missing something. If you have answered show me or someone else show me. I could have missed it. Thanks!
I don't understand what you are trying to say? Are you saying Patagonia are hypocrites?
You aren't answering the question either. You are asking a question insread. Whatever side you are on that's troubling. I don't do that, or don't think I do. You got a good point. No, I would not drop the NRA if Patagonia donates to them. I'm a huge 2nd Amendment guy. I probably would drop the NRA if they donated money to an anti hunting group. I'd probably drop them in a heart beat.
