Bmcox86
WKR
Salomon replaced my broken 4ds with these. I have had them for about 2 months and they have held up pretty good. Only have about 50 miles on them, mostly on snow or in the rain. Haven't had any waterproof issues and they didn't need a break in period. Pretty much the same boot as the 4ds just in leather. Salomons customer service was great about replacing them but it took a few weeks to have them shipped.