Sawtooth vs Redcliffe

[Kevin Dill]

Anyone have a real world, all included weight on their Sawtooth?

In pounds - ounces per my accurate digital scale:

Fabric body: 2 - 11

Liner: 1 - 2

Poles: 1 - 7

Stakes: 0 - 14

 

[reaper]

This what i dont like about the sawtooth,rear pole and tight.

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[camping1601]

Looks like the Sawtooth is a 1/2# lighter.

 

[oldgoat]

This what i dont like about the sawtooth,rear pole and tight.

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One of the guys that posts on here a lot, think he's in Alaska, had a reinforced loop sewn to the outside of his Sawtooth right at the spot the rear pole would go. He guy lines that point out and doesn't use the pole.

 

[colonel00]

Looks like the Sawtooth is a 1/2# lighter.

The Sawtooth fly itself is fairly light. It's the poles and all the stakes you have to carry to fully set it up that add a bit of weight.

One of the guys that posts on here a lot, think he's in Alaska, had a reinforced loop sewn to the outside of his Sawtooth right at the spot the rear pole would go. He guy lines that point out and doesn't use the pole.

Luke Moffat is who you are thinking of. I'll see if I can find the thread. It's a genius mod that looks fairly easy and would allow for a lot of extra space.

Well, the thread was here but it looks like it was removed for some reason.

 

[reaper]

One of the guys that posts on here a lot, think he's in Alaska, had a reinforced loop sewn to the outside of his Sawtooth right at the spot the rear pole would go. He guy lines that point out and doesn't use the pole.

Yeah i saw that,its a nice add on.

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[Akicita]

Anyone have a real world, all included weight on their Sawtooth?

I don't have one for the Sawtooth but I do for the Red Cliff

Tent, Bag, Pole and Stakes = 4 lb 13 oz

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[MontanaMarine]

That Redcliff is a lot of shelter for under 5 lbs.

 

[colonel00]

Here's the sawtooth:

Just shy of 3lbs with added stake extensions at all points.

With poles:

And a bunch of stock stakes:

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[camping1601]

I don't have one for the Sawtooth but I do for the Red Cliff

Tent, Bag, Pole and Stakes = 4 lb 13 oz

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My Redcliffe all included and sealed came in at 5# 8oz?

 

[brocksw]

so it seems like the redcliffe will carry a weight penalty but is more spacious, has two doors, and has slightly more standing room? Also, the stove looks as though it mounts in the middle (slightly off to one side) and the sawtooth stove goes near the single entry. Sawtooth looks like its designed to sleep two guys down on the same end (lower end with short pole) where in the redcliffe its conceivable you could sleep one guy on each side with or without a nest?

Is this summation accurate?

 

[MontanaMarine]

I'm seeing 4lb 13 oz for the Redcliff, all-in. And 5 lb 1 oz for the Sawtooth, all in, plus stake loop extensions added on.

A difference of 4 oz.

Without the added stake extensions on the Sawtooth, looks like weight would be nearly identical.

 

[Outdoorsman3830]

I have no experience with the Sawtooth, but I love my Redcliffe. I've used it with my wife, two kids, and two dogs for camping and my recent eight day trip in Central Idaho. For hunting, it's perfect for two to three people. For one person, it's a palace.

I used the Redcliffe heated shelter combo that comes out at around 8.5 lbs. It was my MVG (Most Valuable Gear) for this year. The stove worked like a champ for cooking and heating the Redcliffe. The tipi was a huge step up from my bivy sac for comfort and space., especially when dealing with snow and howling winds. I'm 6'2" and could stand up in it while I ate breakfast early in the morning. Also, I was skeptical about how it would handle howling winds, but it shed wind without issue.

 

[Derek0525]

I myself was thinking about upgrading from my Cimarron to the Redcliffe until I saw the new tent seek outside has looks like a pack in wall tent

 

[luke moffat]

I like the looks of that shelter for sure! Similar to my Golite SL-8 But with a covered porch and a couple feet of true vertical side walls.

 

[brocksw]

Now that looks interesting!

I myself was thinking about upgrading from my Cimarron to the Redcliffe until I saw the new tent seek outside has looks like a pack in wall tent

 

[Brendan]

 

[Shrek]

I wonder how well that new wall tent type from seek outside will hold up to wind ? Looks like a lot of vertical flats to catch the wind.

 

[dotman]

I like that new SO tent!

 

[luke moffat]

I wonder how well that new wall tent type from seek outside will hold up to wind ? Looks like a lot of vertical flats to catch the wind.

Having owned the extremely similar design in the GoLite SL-8 tipi I can say its not nearly as good as a tipi for sure. But 95% of my camping and backpacking don't require super wind worthiness. Its not something I would bring as my sole shelter for the Brooks Range or Kodiak certainly but much of the time it is much more than adequate.