man...............ive put several deer in the freezer over the years and I'm pretty good at judging one, age, rack score, etc, etc been putting em down with a string and stick now for over 2 decades but yesterday evening the buck I been hunting gave me a short opportunity at 25 yds perfectly broadside and I let him walk................................man did I screw up!! from the side (his right ) he just didn't look all that great, rack didn't look like it came forward very far looked like he had good mass and good height but after he got out further and got turned where I could actually see both sides I wanted to take my harness and wrap around my neck and jump!! he was a brute with a drop tine on his left side prolly 8 inches long with a kicker off of it I couldn't see when broadside earlier and this deers mass was enough to make you sick!! let this be a lesson kids, even veterans like myself can screw up judging one on the hoof every now and then and with one day left to go before the opening morning of gun season gonna be interesting to see if I get another chance this evening, I watched him rub 2 trees break branches off one and make 2 scrapes around the bean field I hunted yesterday he kinda gave chase to a doe but not much, hopefully he'll be back this afternoon. will post pics if he shows up.