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orionthehunter1
WKR
they should move the cow hunt dates in the trophy units. Plus I have never heard of anyone shooting a spike in 2,10,201,76, or 61
I have never heard of anyone shooting a spike in 2,10,201,76, or 61
Plus I have never heard of anyone shooting a spike in 2,10,201,76, or 61
Hopefully the state doesn't pander to a bunch of NR that want a ranch quality bull from their pickup on public land because they suck at hunting or don't want to put in the work.
I can promise that would increase OTC numbers. Everyone I know would rather go hunt than sit at home and build points.I don’t get why so many are anti ML during archery, in the 7 or 8 years I’ve hunted CO it has been during the ML season and I’ve never really ran into one other then when packing out to a TH. This year was the first time I saw a bear rifle hunter.
To me it seems that some worry over a non issue.
It would be interesting if they changed it to you either apply or buy an OTC tag and no buying points. If you apply and don’t draw you get a point but can’t buy an otc tag. I wonder if this would increase otc unit numbers.
I don’t get why so many are anti ML during archery
Those guys don't bother me because they really aren't much of an issue. Like this year, there were a bunch of ML hunters camped near my base camp but I never saw them actually hunting or even away from camp much. It was no surprise that they said they didn't see or hear an elk all week.
How about the rest of the 'Spike legal' units? 1,20,29, 39, 40, 46, 48, 49, 50, 51, 56, 57, 58, 69, 84, 391, 461, 481, 500, 501, 561, 591, 692, 791
or units east of I25
Guide rule in Wyoming was challenged at the supreme court you have zero chance of getting states to give up control of wildlife to feds. Now that's a cluster no one would be happy to see
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It's a state right. Separation of powers is a constitutional foundation.I didnt say give up complete control. I am suggesting the feds allow the state biologist to set tag limits for each unit. And they absolutely can take control if they choose too. From the outside looking in it appears the biggest problem with western states is how many greedy local hands are in the till and too many state legislators making fish and game wildlife decisions rather than biologist and F&G management.
So how exactly do you suppose it has come to be that the harvest guidelines on a national wildlife refuge here do not meet the zone or state guidelines? Specifically, on the federal ground any buck is legal, the state has a 3 point per side rule that is standard except for a few zones that require 15" inside spread or 18" main beams. Maybe there is some gray area distinction between national forest and national refuge? But if you want to ML or Gun hunt on this particular area, you apply for the random draw through the USF&WS not the state. Draw works just fine too, some years you get a permit and some you dont. There is no reason that I am aware of that the USFW and State agencies can't work together.
I am not sure how it works in Arkansas but the only way that they could do that would be that the State is making that rule, not the Feds. There are major differences between how refuges and forest service land is ran but I dont understand how wildlife is managed on them.