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    Is the western hunting bubble bursting? (Or at least shrinking?)

    Yeah the nonresident cash now is never going away for these states. That said I do worry about outfitter influence/preference in some states, particularly WY/MT. The outfitter organizations have way too much political pull.
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    Montana (and other state) hunter orange laws out dated?

    It should just be a hat, period. Montana’s is completely outdated. 400 square inches is difficult if not impossible the measure accurately in the field. Is a vest good enough? Orange bino harness plus hat? I’m sure it leads to some arguments between wardens and hunters. If nothing else make...
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    Is the western hunting bubble bursting? (Or at least shrinking?)

    Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think we’re ever going back to MT tags not selling out. But you combine this years MT statistics with the Colorado statistics posted above, and the idea that demand is just going to continue to explode and it's all doom and gloom from a tag availability standpoint...
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    The Gohunt Effect

    I don’t have GoHunt anymore, I generally can find all the information I need from state websites, it just takes a bit longer. But when I had it, I stayed away from the OTC/general units they touted. Did it matter? Who knows, but I found success elsewhere regardless. I’ve also hunted units that...
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    Is the western hunting bubble bursting? (Or at least shrinking?)

    A) It’s roughly a 5% decrease in apps after things had been steadily increasing the last few years, then topped out the last two years at 31k. Does it mean we’re gonna see leftover tags again next year? Probably not. But it’s not insignificant either. 2025 will tell the story if it is a trend or...
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    Is the western hunting bubble bursting? (Or at least shrinking?)

    Montana draw statistics are out for this year. ~1500 less applicants than 2023 and 2022. Odds actually improved. I might have called it a bit early in my OP but I think some of the meateater/Rogan/Instagram crowd is finally moving on. It’s not as hip as it was a few years ago, and some of the...
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    Official Montana 2024 Draw Thread

    True. If an outfitted client can buy an off season PP then buy two during application that might happen, but the entire point of the two points for outfitted applicants was so they could draw every year. If they drew the year prior, they shouldn’t have 3 the next year. I still bet we are a drop...
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    Official Montana 2024 Draw Thread

    Called it! 2 point odds improved from slightly this year. As f$cked up as MT FWP is, their preference points system is the best for the end user. Turns out when you make people apply every year or lose their points, the system works as intended. Colorado and Wyoming should be paying attention...
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    Official Montana 2024 Draw Thread

    I’m patiently awaiting official draw results statistics. It’s always tough to get a real feel for what statistics were in reality based off these threads. We have some people claiming they didn’t draw with 2 PP’s for general elk and we also have folks claiming they did draw with 1 point that...
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    Official Montana 2024 Draw Thread

    Yeah I remember that, certain people in parties were getting released tags while the rest of the party wasn’t. That was BS. That said I think they were going to higher point holders first. I don’t recall any 1 point holders getting released tags, but I could be wrong.
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    Official Montana 2024 Draw Thread

    I don’t think the secondary draw for released tags is randomized. At least I’ve never read that, but it’s Montana so who knows. IIRC per Montana law 75% of tags go to those with the most PP’s then 25% to those who opted out of the PP system. The people who initially didn’t draw with 2 points...
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    Official Montana 2024 Draw Thread

    I should’ve clarified, this is the first year that all the points in the system have been purchased since the change to $100 points/apply every every year or lose your points/etc IIRC. In other words things should be “normalized” compared to the past few years where things had been changed...
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    Official Montana 2024 Draw Thread

    I’m gonna call it now that odds for 2 points will be the same or better than they were last year due to the “apply or lose your points” rule. This is the first draw that rule is in full effect if I recall correctly. It’s relatively complicated, but aside from the outfitter welfare Montana’s...
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    WTS Kifaru Fulcrum Multicam (Bag only)

    Bump. Open to reasonable offers!
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    Mid life crisis career change… Remote jobs?

    Thanks @menhaden_man We did the math and decided to stay put… for now. As of now, I’ve got around 11 years before I can retire with a pretty decent pension. I have a feeling that will go by before I know it. I’ll be 48/49 years old depending on how much sick time I can burn at the end. Between...
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