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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    I have 225 yard range at home about a 2 minute ranger ride from the house. I shoot way more 22 caliber than anything else. I’m old so passed a million rounds fired long ago. The weatherby doesn’t get shot much - even reloads aren’t cheap. The 500 yard elk vitals sized rock is pretty easy with...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Interesting theories. I agree there is no substitute for shooting to get better & more consistent shooting. Recoil tolerance is individual but can be learned & improved. I’ve had 110 lb woman shoot my light 375 H&H very well offhand at simulated charging Buffalo when training for a TV hunting...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Only 3 shots from a Ruger model 77 made in 1976 7mmRM 150 grain TTSX deer season front bag only check zero group. I’ve owned the rifle 46 years this is only the 4th time zero check produced a group you could cover with a dime. Yes it is a hunting rifle wearing its 6th scope Zeiss V4 4-16x 50. I...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    They worked fine on a 75 yard neck shot on an elk - any bullet would. I got an extra 150 yard tracking job on a deer 2 shots back of the lungs. Inferior zip through without expansion- less than ideal - but still dead. Group well over an inch with 160’s & no 150 option is certainly a failure...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    They both died & were quite tasty. That 7mm shoots 150’s exceptionally well so it seems pointless to force 160’s just to use accubond when TTSX 150’s are available. It must be quite a gift to make every rifle shoot every weight bullet well. I’ve never heard of that being possible but you...
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    Range Finder Search

    I see the Leica 2400 at Cabelas & others for $599. My 7 year old 1600 reaches out to rocks over 1500 with no problem, very reliable and simple without a ton of never used features & better glass than anything but the bino rangefinders. Good customer service for me when pup chewed on the eyepiece.
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    I am too harsh with “fail” both the elk & deer I shot with them died but the young bull was 75 yards neck shot to avoid another bull behind his chest. The deer was on the move 2 bullets back of the chest zipped through & let him run quite a while - much less effective than NBT. But my big...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Impressive but if you sandwich 3/8 plywood with the thin steel that would be closer to a rib consistency. But just the steel is more durable than the thickest hide or cartilage. That damage spike at 6” is nice. No exit hole but probably no tracking required on a deer. Have you done anything to...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    How many ribs & shoulder bones do the bullets penetrate before they crush the gel?
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Your experience with partitions isn’t unique I had that happen with a cow elk & a 30-06 under 100 yards after turning her back from a run at about 250 with 2 in the chest. The day before an average sized mule deer went bang flop with the same load. My preference was the 7mm 150 grain...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    You’re probably right about acute lead poisoning and eating a game animal or 2 every year. I switched to copper after a NBT bltew up on a bulls ribs sending shrapnel through his lungs. The monos really did penetrate & break bones better. But when I saw the lead dispersed throughout the meat...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    So you’re one of those corn feeder guys- it’s OK I’ve shot pigs in the head before butchering so I know that extreme challenge. Had a couple of buddies recently move to Texas & Tennessee they both have nice places for deer and have switched to 223’s off the porch. They harvest lots of deer...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    I am hunting elk with younger hunters trying to grow the sport & get younger hunters started on elk. The guys as old as me who still enjoy hiking the mountains are harder to find & can’t carry as much meat on as many trips. In my limited experience They start with some assumptions they got...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    There are folks on here who only kill deer in front of the automatic corn feeder or feed plot at 75 yards and guys who hike 15 miles days on end in rugged terrain. What is your point? You won’t convince me to use a 223 on deer even if it were legal in my state. I can shoot the 300 as well as a...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    The question was margin of error the answer is more energy gives greater margin of error. A shot 4” too high or low with a larger faster bullet will kill faster than a smaller slower bullet. If you’re so convinced you are right please use a very small marginal cartridge for dangerous game as a...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    You wouldn’t see the fragments- I never You beat me - my first was in 1973 with a lead 30 caliber 150 grain bullet. I’ve only seen a very few fragments in any deer meat. Like most hunters I discard all bloodshot meat. It was x-ray photos & film that changed my mind...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Please correct my math if you can. If you’re happy shooting 243’s at elk by all means keep using them. If you’re a big fan of frangible bullets use them. I’ve only killed 20 elk & seen another 20 so not a statistically significant sample. 30+ deer isn’t like cull hunters with hundreds or...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Yes younger hunters are so experienced with all the YouTube they watch. The made for YV hunts where you never see the goat rodeos when smaller cartridges miss a little.
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    I was a huge skeptic eating game all my life. The film was definitely Not what I expected. About 8-12” past the end of damaged meat. Small particles of lead in meat. In a front shoulder it wouldn’t show up & be ground into the burger every time. Some years most of the red meat we eat is deer or...
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    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Basic Physics is the answer. Energy = Mass x Velocity squared. A heavier bullet going faster imparts more energy to the target. It actually can make an ass shot a killer by shattering a hip bone, Accurate rangefinders & dialing scopes make pedestrian Creedmoors & 308’s as or more accurate than...
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