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  1. 4fletch

    Fact checking Ashby

    What you should have taken away is a 300wm will do more damage than a 308 using like bullets. (weight, sd/bc) What i now understand is why fish and game uses hard cal restrictions, its pretty clear that there is a lot of BS hardwired into the hunting community from decades ago that has since...
  2. 4fletch

    Fact checking Ashby

    According to two different arrow velocity calculators it would be 340 and 290fps for 350g vs 500g. I threw the numbers in favor of the argument against me to be fair. Bullet construction is not relevant for this conversation. Its just a distraction from the hard truth you finally admitted.
  3. 4fletch

    Fact checking Ashby

    You seem to struggle following the point. Perhaps circle back where i explained it last time and give it another go. Lol. Would you like me to post a video showing .40S&W and 10mm both with the same weight bullet getting optimal expansion from the same distance on the same target and the 10mm...
  4. 4fletch

    Fact checking Ashby

    If you took the time to read and follow along you would notice that the whole bullets constructed for the velocity they are being used at has already been covered. Frankly if you are using an established caliber and getting a bullet that doesnt hold together/work as advertised you are using...
  5. 4fletch

    Fact checking Ashby

    KE does not tell you even remotely what an arrow could do. KE does not even give you a fair comparison between two very different arrows. One could fail to do what we need arrows to do while the other could be a pass through. While with bullets if you can accelerate a small light bullet to match...
  6. 4fletch

    Fact checking Ashby

    You really do not understand the claim here do you? The honest version of your question would be why would you choose the 25-06 over the 257 Roberts?
  7. 4fletch

    Fact checking Ashby

    The claim is not what someone is better with, or better off with. The claim is not what makes something "deader". The claim was that KE is a bad metric for archery hunting because as i have shown it can falsely lead you to believe a lighter faster arrow from the same bow has more potential to...
  8. 4fletch

    Vane length/count and ballistic drag

    Out to 40 yards with the same vanes 4 fletch 3 degree RH vs 3 fletch 2.5 RH with arrows of the same weight, or even the same weight the difference in point of impact is nada. Unless a guy can shoot Robin Hoods one after the other he is not going to be able to tell the difference accuracy wise...
  9. 4fletch

    Are Thermal Devices Ethical For Predawn Scouting and Hiking?

    They are begging people to kill deer here. And they are already complaining we did not kill enough does or moose. While i understand your point, that same tech has advanced the way we conserve. Its not guess work anymore. They can issue a specific amount of tags based on a known percentage of...
  10. 4fletch

    Fact checking Ashby

    Your claim broken down A 50 cal black powder rifle with a bullet with a thin jacket specifically weakened for expansion and cavitated for performance at its velocity has the same effect as a .50 bmg of the same weight with a bullet designed for optimal expansion at its velocity. You could not be...
  11. 4fletch

    Obsession TM33 80lbs

    Anyone have any experience with the 2021 Obsession bows? I can not get 80lb limbs for my bow and the TM33 has an 80lb option. It seems like an "inexpensive" way to play around with 80lbs and some faster speeds. I have never even held an Obsession bow and am not near a dealer, and the search...
  12. 4fletch

    Fact checking Ashby

    LOL, "do not use any examples that show velocity in fact is a determining factor in effect on target" I do not do running goal post conversations. Hint hint, tmjs cause cavitation, showing your claim incorrect. As a matter of fact Bohning showed an arrow doing it in ballistics gel. Death is...
  13. 4fletch

    Fact checking Ashby

    Bullets faster than the average handgun create primary, secondary and tertiary wounding. I recommend YOU look at some battlefield pictures of damage done by the 5.56 vs the slower bigger rounds on the human body. Or better yet look at pistol bullets of the same weight as say the 270 winchester...
  14. 4fletch

    Fact checking Ashby

    The issue being the same bow shoots a 350g arrow 340 fps and a 500g arrow 280fps. Thats .527 m and 89.75ke for the light and fast and .621m and 86.95ke for the heavy slower. The problem being if you use KE as a metric for killing with a bow it will fail you. Its an energy transfer data point if...
  15. 4fletch

    What age did you introduce your kids to hunting?

    Every kid is different. I made sure my children knew as soon as they could comprehend it that what they are eating is animal and plant and that those are/were living things. To respect life, that we must consume life to live and how it gets to the table. The older kids still like to bird hunt...
  16. 4fletch

    Fact checking Ashby

    KE is an all but worthless metric when it comes to arrows. At least with momentum you have a solid starting point. Two arrows with the same momentum will have close to the same potential on target, two arrows with the same KE could be so wildly different that one could fail to pen a lethal...
  17. 4fletch

    Fact checking Ashby

    Easton and Bohning tell you then show you when they make a claim. Hard to argue with that.
  18. 4fletch

    Loyalty to local business or to your budget?

    I will shop local even at a great cost to myself. But if they mess up, lie to me, show themselves to be less than able I will never shop there again. I had a bow shop make two or three mistakes on two bows and then I was told they were holding a product I had ordered so I would keep using their...
  19. 4fletch

    Post hunt etiquette: Splitting/sharing meat

    Whoever helps cut it up gets some.
  20. 4fletch

    Am I a jerk? (Read before voting)

    I would rather watch a child take the big one than take it myself.
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