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62 gr tsx, 300+ yards no problems with expansion. Nothing for scale but exit was about 1.5” dia. Gf shoots .223 significantly better than any of my larger rifles.
I use 26.0 grains of LeverRevolution and get mid 2926 fps under the 75 gr. Hornady HPBT and not much compression.I just picked up and 8lber of xbr to try to squeeze some more velocity out but don’t feel like working up a load again. I’m setting my max at 400 yards anyways so it dosnt matter. My throat is fairly short in the tikka, as of yet I havnt been able to cram enough varget in a 223 case to cause significant pressure.
Going to shoot a 10 round group for zero, bang the 8” steel plate at 400 and continue to practice positional shooting with the 223.
We shall see how it goes in Montana first week of November.
You'll note I said "more than fine for my purposes" meaning I don't ever have to shoot that far, typically. I've only been taking the .223 Rem into this thicker spot where the shots are all close quarters. 50yds tops.
well that was a perfect hit, but it did not hit much shoulder, actually the thinnest part of the shoulder. Good harvest and I hope everyone gets hits like that every time, saves a lot of meat not hitting bone with anything you shoot.If the selected cartridge/bullet combination stays together well enough to penetrate the shoulder of the targeted species and also expands and causes enough damage for a clean kill on a rib shot I don't see how the cartridge is causing any extra risk of losing an animal...
There are a considerable number of cartridges that will outperform the 223 under many circumstances that are not magnums. And they don't kick much either.Why don’t you tell us what reason that is? You’ve a lot of faith in legislators and conservation officials to understand bullet dynamics. Interesting take, but elaborate.
I’m sadly convinced some “experienced” hunters read “magnum” on the box of “shells” on the shelf and automatically assume it’s better than a 223 with the correct bullets. I’d take a 77tmk @ 2750 outta my AR for moose, over some of the factory “‘06” on the shelf at your wal mart. It’s not magic, bud. No matter what Outdoor Life says.
Set your feelers aside. How is it “clear,” factually?clearly a .223 isn't close to the best choice for deer
Wound channels. I really encourage you to read the thread in which you’re posting.no feelers here. energy and bullet diameter are way bigger/better with 308, 30-06, 300mags vs .223. i'm trying to understand why anyone would want to use a .223, other than recoil, but a brake does wonders on 308 etc. i said that a 22LR has prob killed every animal on earth, why aren't we saying to use a rimfire, but that would be silly, right, when there are much better choices.
What about people that are recoil shy though? What about a fast twist .204, or a fast, fast twist .17 Rem?
How about a pellet rifle?
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You have to quantify “vastly superior”. If you haven’t noticed over 22 pages, this thread is about empirical evidence. We don’t care what you have to say. We don’t care about anecdotes. We welcome being proven wrong, but the burden is on you. Bring evidence.But you could say the same thing about many cartridges, 6.5 Creed a vastly superior cartridge over the 223. My 260 Remington for instance is low recoil and deadly accurate. I mean if I were looking for a deer round I would have many low recoil and very accurate rifles that have more flexibility.
Most likely more moose are killed with a 223 in nw alaska then any other cartridge.
Empiracal evidence that a .224 75 grain bullet when placed in the center of the chest is deadly! A bullet that comes apart at a fast rate, Sure I coulda tole you that and say the same thing for the Hornady 55 caliber Hornady SP but no I do not consider the 223 an all around deer rifle.You have to quantify “vastly superior”. If you haven’t noticed over 22 pages, this thread is about empirical evidence. We don’t care what you have to say. We don’t care about anecdotes. We welcome being proven wrong, but the burden is on you. Bring evidence.
Empiracal evidence that a .224 75 grain bullet when placed in the center of the chest is deadly! A bullet that comes apart at a fast rate, Sure I coulda tole you that and say the same thing for the Hornady 55 caliber Hornady SP but no I do not consider the 223 an all around deer rifle.