.223 for bear, deer, elk and moose.

Lawnboi

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Today I packed up my creedmoor to take to Montana…. I feel like I’m cheating on my 223. All came down to more mag on the scope for ID so I don’t shoot a spike. 3 doe tags is all Montana gave me this year.
 
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You’re pole vaulting over mouse turds. Take a 77gr TMK, put 23.7gr (or 23.5or 23.3gr) of 8208 in a case (any case), with any standard SR primer, seat it to 2.26” COAL, shoot. That’s it. That combo has shot well in every single 223/5.56 we’ve tried it in.
The above load in an 8 twist IBI at 470 yards
Velocity 2815 from a 22 inch barrel 2B19F5A9-AAA1-491A-810F-98D889BD9ED7.jpegE3CCC6C2-8763-4E4E-9594-96CF96E6B0F9.jpeg
 
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If anyone had questions about 130 tmk, I can provide one data point: shot a mature mule deer at 100 yards, it traveled 15 yards and flopped. I clipped the end of the humorous, shattering the bone down the entire length and breaking the end of the scapula off. The Bullet continued on into the chest, fist sized entry hole, liquefied the lungs. Lots of blood between the off side shoulder and the chest, no visible bullet hole in the off side thought. The damage to the entry shoulder suggested rapid expansion. The most meat I've ever lost on an entry side shot. If it had entered just a couple inches back...
 
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I guess you’re talking about the 6.5 creed or something with the TMK
That weight seems to be the sweet spot for 6.5 mm devastation,the 130 grain ELDM at 260 velocities absolutely reeks havoc too
 

260madman

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I shouldn’t have cheated on the 77tmk. I’d take it over 135 and 140 Berger hunters. They worked but didn’t expand as fast as the TMK.
Did you really need the higher mag or could you have gotten by with the scope on the 223?
 

Lawnboi

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Did you really need the higher mag or could you have gotten by with the scope on the 223?
I definitely could have gotten by with the 223. Buddy with a buck tag carried a spotter so all was well. I’m pretty careful though when I’m shooting mulie does, super easy to not catch a spike in there at 300 yards when everything is brown. Learned that lesson the hard way. I did zoom to 25x to confirm my last doe.

Terminal performance I’d give to the tmk though, wish I would have had it.
 

Sandstrom

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Where can we even find tikkas in stock?!
Scheels and Sportsman’s Warehouse had several new in stock when I was there on Friday in MN. Also I saw a left handed stainless 223 8 twist T3 with threaded barrel, brake, and a higher end leupold for $990.00 at a place called gun stop in Minnetonka MN (for another thousand, they had the twin to that gun in 308)
Ryan
 
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