.223 for bear, deer, elk and moose.

[Lawnboi]

But where are they getting the 77gr tmks from? That's the piece of all this I can't figure out. So, I'm thinking about just doing a prefix for 22 creed to run 88 eldms out of my current tikka action/stock since eldms seem to pop up more frequently.

Or just shoot 75eldm while you wait?

The beauty of 223 is it’s dirt cheap to load.

 

[Juan_ID]

Little tip to aid in smoother seating. Little imperial on a big q tip spun on the chamfer before seating, that or if your using a mandrel the same prior to running the mandrel down.

1st firing on the Lapua?

I don’t seem to have much issue with seating? And this is the third firing on the lapua

 

[Lawnboi]

I don’t seem to have much issue with seating? And this is the third firing on the lapua

I saw the rings and figured you had some pressure seating. But it’s only happened to me first seating on Lapua

 

[Juan_ID]

I saw the rings and figured you had some pressure seating. But it’s only happened to me first seating on Lapua

Gotchya, it only seems to happen when I’m seating deeper and compressing the load. I was trying ar length on 5 just to see how they shot. The hornady stem I have leaves a slight ring but it seems to be mostly cosmetic.

 

[Lawnboi]

Gotchya, it only seems to happen when I’m seating deeper and compressing the load. I was trying ar length on 5 just to see how they shot. The hornady stem I have leaves a slight ring but it seems to be mostly cosmetic.

I see, that happens to me too when I have compressed too much. I try to avoid it as I got some inconsistent seating with that much compression.

 

[FLS]

75 ELDMs work well on game. I’m using them for deer on nuisance permits here in SC. I had to seating them long in my CTR to get them to shoot, but once I found the the jump they wanted, they shoot very well. Im using modified accurate mags, so I don’t know if they would fit in the factory CTR or Tikka mags.

 

[SouthPaw]

75 ELDMs work well on game. I’m using them for deer on nuisance permits here in SC. I had to seating them long in my CTR to get them to shoot, but once I found the the jump they wanted, they shoot very well. Im using modified accurate mags, so I don’t know if they would fit in the factory CTR or Tikka mags.

I loaded the 75eldm to 2.424 OAL which was .010 off the lands in my CTR 223. This fit easily in the CTR mag which I think can take 2.55 OAL. However my rifle didn't like the 75s and much prefers the 73eldm and 77tmk.

 

[Lawnboi]

75eldm are picky bastards.

 

[FLS]

75eldm are picky bastards.

Yes they are but once you find the secret sauce, they’re thought to beat. And they’re available.

 

[Juan_ID]

Did some shooting this evening testing the new tmk load and the rokslide special continues to impress. Shot this group at 625 yards

 

[roosiebull]

Did some shooting this evening testing the new tmk load and the rokslide special continues to impress. Shot this group at 625 yards
View attachment 425887

some dang good shooting! i would treat that load like a sore peter and not mess with it

 

[amassi]

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[axeforce6]

Can someone do a TLDR for me on this.

 

[260madman]

Can someone do a TLDR for me on this.

.224s are good. Do not use monos if possible. Tissue damage kills. Practice a lot. Don’t use Vortex. Tikka the best. SWFAs unobtainable.

I probably missed something.

 

[Formidilosus]

Can someone do a TLDR for me on this.

Why don’t you want to learn yourself?

 

[axeforce6]

Why don’t you want to learn yourself?

88 pages is a time vampire.

 

[roosiebull]

88 pages is a time vampire.

it really is time well spent if you are looking at a computer...... way more valuable than most time spent looking at a computer/phone, don't have to read it all at once, but nobody could give you a cliff notes version that compares to reading all of the great info (both on topic and off topic) yourself.

like i have said before, it's the most information rich topic i have ever read on the internet.... no close second i can think of.... doesn't only apply to the .223 either, just a ton of great overall information on ballistics, a huge collaboration of great first hand experience with many good side tangents..... you would likely disagree if you were one of the naysayers arguing feelings vs other's real world results, haha..... so there is some comedy mixed in too.... seriously a great thread worth reading in it's entirety....

 

[Nomosendero]

I agree! If super busy just set a goal to read 5-10 pages per day. Well worth it!

 

[robtattoo]

OP: "I'm going to use this bullet in a caliber that many think is sub standard to kill big shit."

13 people: "You can't do that, it's too small, conventional wisdom blah blah, unethical blah blah blah."

87.5 pages of empirical proof, testing, photographic & anecdotal first hand evidence, lessons on neck length, temporary vs permanent wound cavity, tissue shock, fragmentation, fragment dispersal, trauma & bleeding theory, ballistic calculations, velocity implications, picture evidence of many, MANY critters killed with the OP's intended combination, dissertations from someone who shoots & tests more bullet, cartridge, rifle & scope combinations in a month than most people will do in a lifetime, some jokes, some tears, life lessons, couple of arguments & education later......

You:

 

[woods89]

13 people: "You can't do that, it's too small, conventional wisdom blah blah, unethical blah blah blah."

If I may add.....

......bullet will pencil through, bullet will explode and not penetrate, only on does or cows, what if the bull of a lifetime steps out at 400 yds on the last evening and the only shot you have is the Texas heart shot, what if you hit him too far back, real men can handle recoil, put on a brake and take it off to hunt, even a 22 lr will work if everything's perfect, elk can go miles even when perfectly hit...........

...and on, and on.....