308 copper bullet experience (or other moderate speed cartridges)

jspradley

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I've shot several deer and pigs with old 180gr Pierce Munitions .308 (I believe they use Barnes TSX projectiles) and they work...really well. Only had to make a follow up with one deer and that was because of my shitty shooting and I spined it.
 

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Hello all! I know I am late to the conversation here but in my conversion from lead to non-lead all the information I could get was helpful. This last year was my first-year rifle hunting in 4 years and I went with non-lead using barnes in a 30-06 and a 25-06. The results were great but different than with lead. The 25-06 took pronghorn at 180 yards and 375 yards. The damage at 375 was extreme and I wonder if the bullet tumbled at this range. The large pronghorn buck shot at 180 got up out of his bed and ran maybe 40 yards before even realizing he was hit. He went down shortly after, the damage was moderate but sufficient. Both were heart shots. The 30-06 was loaded with 168 grain barnes vor-tx putting out 2820 fps in my rifle. Because of the area I was hunting shots were long. I ended up taking a large mule deer at 485 yards. Which according to the ballistic tables puts me at right around 2000 fps under those conditions. The bullet entered quartering away broke two ribs on entering damaged both lungs and broke throw the center of the offside shoulder bone and exited. Leaving a 40 caliberish hole through the offside shoulder with no meat damage. Damage was not enough to be forgiving of any lesser shot placement. I don't think I would push this bullet much below that velocity level. Overall the meat savings alone were totally worth the negatives.
 

Jclark225

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A little late to this post but thought I'd share my experience so far with the Barnes 175gr LRX out of my .308.
I was told they'd be too heavy to stabilize out of my shorter barrel but I'm getting ~2.5" groups at 419yds.

was also told they flat would not expand under 2000fps. I filled a plastic container with paper and water and shot it from 450yds. (My ballistics chart says 1917fps at impact.) Attached are two of the recovered bullets.

All in all it's been a winner for me as far as potential non lead hunting ammunition goes. I don't shoot off a bench or use sandbags btw. Just started load development so I can update with any changes.
 

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rileybassman

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A little late to this post but thought I'd share my experience so far with the Barnes 175gr LRX out of my .308.
I was told they'd be too heavy to stabilize out of my shorter barrel but I'm getting ~2.5" groups at 419yds.

was also told they flat would not expand under 2000fps. I filled a plastic container with paper and water and shot it from 450yds. (My ballistics chart says 1917fps at impact.) Attached are two of the recovered bullets.

All in all it's been a winner for me as far as potential non lead hunting ammunition goes. I don't shoot off a bench or use sandbags btw. Just started load development so I can update with any changes.
Nice expansion... I believe I heard somewhere 1800-2000 is for ttsx and like 1600- 1800 for lrx. Either way that looks good tho

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Austink47

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My hunting buddies and I have switched to Barnns copper. Outstanding results on elk and mule deer. We all shoot pretty standard cartridges 308, 270, 30-06, and shoot pretty conservative distances. As far as terminal ballistics are concerned all 10 or so elk I have seen shot with cooper seem to pretty much drop in their tracks.
 
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RCB

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OP here. I thought I'd report my results from last season.

I ended up going with 150 gr Federal Premium Trophy Copper ammo. My rifle (Savage 11, 308) seems to like Federal Premium. Barnes Vor-tx also shoots well.

I shot a mule deer through the shoulder at 215 yards, and a cow elk through the lungs at <50 yards. Full pass-through in both cases, and both died quickly. Happy with the performance.
 

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I haven’t had great success with the copper bullets. I’ve taken a caribou at about 300 yards with my 300 win mag using 180gr ttsx’s, a big black bear at 50 yards with that same combination.

I’ve also taken a mountain goat and another bear with an 18” barrel 308 and 165gr hornady gmx’s.

In all 4 cases I was quite underwhelmed by expansion and knock down. None of those 4 animals were “one and done”.

The last 4 or 5 animals (bears, goat and mule deer) I’ve taken have been with that same 18” barrel 308 and 200gr nosler partitions between 25 and 280 yards. Every one has been a one shot drop on the spot type experience. Lots and lots of variables involved but I have been much happier with the performance of the heavy partitions.
 

prm

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I’ve used the 160gn .338 TTSX on a variety of large critters including elk and Kudu. Roughly same velocity as a 308 shooting 150s. I don’t think you’ll be disappointed. I wouldn’t shy from the 130 either.

Edit: somehow I missed the post about your results. Congrats.
 
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