6.5 SAUM VS 6.5 PRC

[robby denning]

20” and black....


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[khuber84]

I've got a few of both. I run adg brass in both chamberings. Use rcbs matchmaster dies in both. Neither of my prcs like the 156 berger with multiple powders and primers. They do like 140 Bergers though. 26" barrel prc is running 3140fps w/ N565 about 1 grain below pressure @ 3180 fps. My saums run 156 bergers, both cut with long freebore. I run them @ 3090fps w/ N565 powder, 26" barrels. I can run them hotter but the accuracy isn't quite as good and it's hard on brass. These are all built on tikkas cept 1 prc is a CA Mesa LR. Bartlein or hells canyon carbon barrels all 26" long. The adg prc brass starts getting annoying clickers and slight bolt lift on prior no pressure observed loads after 3-4 reloads. The saum adg brass has 7-8 firings on it with no issues. Adg brass is good stuff, however I do skim turn the necks to knock down the high sides. I do like the non rebated rim of the prc for feeding off the lips of and action, but the Tikka is a centerfeed box, and zero issues feeding with either case. I do run then in a long action config with the hells canyon billet short mag magazines.

 

[EmperorMA]

Prc if running factory ammo and Saum if you reload. With quality brass for the Saum being available I see no reason not to go that option and When I had the same debate I went Sarum and don’t regret it. View attachment 234439

Who is producing “quality brass” for the wildcat 6.5 SAUM?

And, is there such a thing? Remington never loaded it that I’m aware of.

 

[MallardAddict]

Who is producing “quality brass” for the wildcat 6.5 SAUM?

ADG head stamped brass has been awesome in 2 of my 6.5 saum’s

 

[Wrangler13]

I’ve had several PRC’s. My current is a Gunwerks ClymR with a 21” tube. Shoots 127 LRX at 3055. I’m also having Steve Boswell build me an ultra lite Ti with a 23” tube and will probably shoot 143 ELD X out of that one.

What is your load data with the 127lrx?

 

[lyle_destroys]

Prc if running factory ammo and Saum if you reload. With quality brass for the Saum being fairly readily available and as a hand loader
I see no reason not to go that option and when I had the same debate I went saum and don’t regret it. View attachment 234439

What stock is that?

 

[lyle_destroys]

SAUM just sounds cooler, and that counts for something, right?

 

[khuber84]

Who is producing “quality brass” for the wildcat 6.5 SAUM?

And, is there such a thing? Remington never loaded it that I’m aware of.

Adg makes the brass. You can also buy loaded norma/prime ammo from target sports. It pushes 142smk @ 3100 from my 26" barrels. Your freebore needs to be 120 or more, if not you're jammed in the lands.

 

[Kotaman]

What is your load data with the 127lrx?

Not sure. It is the Gunwerks “house” load. I have loaded up some 127’s with 60.5 of Retumbo though. They are just as accurate, but I have not Chrono’d them yet.

 

[MallardAddict]

What stock is that?

It is a Manners eh2 I believe

 

[EmperorMA]

ADG head stamped brass has been awesome in 2 of my 6.5 saum’s

Is that stamped 6.5 SAUM or GAP 4S?

 

[204guy]

Is that stamped 6.5 SAUM or GAP 4S?

6.5mm SAUM - Atlasdg.com

As low as $1.65 per piece

atlasdg.com

 

[Kimber7man]

In stock

ADG 6.5 SAUM Brass 50 ct. - Shoot-Long

6.5 SAUM ADG Brass

www.shoot-long.com

 

[Danny1788]

@ Ryan Avery
I think it would depend more on the action being used & if its gonna be BDL or DBM than Saum Vs PRC.

I would never build a PRC with .188" factory FB on a Rem Sa, it would only be a medium length or LA.
The Saum works very well with the .120" FB and a wyatts length BDL box.

 

[Ryan Avery]

@ Ryan Avery
I think it would depend more on the action being used & if its gonna be BDL or DBM than Saum Vs PRC.

I would never build a PRC with .188" factory FB on a Rem Sa, it would only be a medium length or LA.
The Saum works very well with the .120" FB and a wyatts length BDL box.

It’s going to be on a LA.


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[HuntnPack]

If your considering a SAUM, maybe bump up to a Sherman 6.5 ss, or: if on a med. or long action go
6.5 Max.
ADG headstamped, formed brass, reamers, & bushing dies.

 

[Ryan Avery]

If your considering a SAUM, maybe opt for
a Sherman 6.5 ss, or 6.5 MAX.
ADG headstamped brass, reamers, & dies.

I would rather +p a SAUM that deal with the Sherman BS.


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[excaliber]

If you have any thought of reloading I'd go with the 6.5 SAUM. There are well known issues with the 6.5 PRC dies(All manufacturers)not sizing the brass properly.

I was going to build a PRC earlier this year but am waiting to see what they work out with the dies. I'd go 26" on the 6.5 PRC but that's me.

 

[HuntnPack]

I would rather +p a SAUM that deal with the Sherman BS.


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Curious.......What’s the BS?

 

[WRO]

It’s going to be on a LA.


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If you're building it on a long action, build a 264 win..

Building short action cartridges on a long action is more annoying than Taylor swift..

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