60-inch Club Troy Sessions customers calling

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Larry Bartlet it says “sponsor” under your logo and I see you pay for advertising to RockSlide, that tells me everything anybody needs to know about what you care most about… profit.

There are rules about bashing, bullying or lying about someone located in the Rockslide rules. You have clearly violated all of the rules here and I cannot believe Rockslide has allowed this shameful behavior...
Your statement was clearly PERSONAL and unprofessional on all accounts. Using Rockslide as a platform to bash on Troy Sessions and his business is pathetic, and says everything about your character.

What we don’t see is Troy Sessions waisting his time saying anything about you (much respect). Clearly he doesn’t waist his time about your lies and childish bantering.

If you're so interested about sharing the truth then why didn't you share about his success rate. From what I hear his clients rival everyone.

No respect for you Larry Bartlet.... NONE!
So for now on you dont want to see anyone in the hunting business telling you that they have customers from other businesses letting them know how terrible of a experience they had. And you would have no problem booking a hunt with some one who has had numerous issues. Got it. Better book your kotz caribou hunt with AA now.

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Larry Bartlet it says “sponsor” under your logo and I see you pay for advertising to RockSlide, that tells me everything anybody needs to know about what you care most about… profit.

There are rules about bashing, bullying or lying about someone located in the Rockslide rules. You have clearly violated all of the rules here and I cannot believe Rockslide has allowed this shameful behavior...
Your statement was clearly PERSONAL and unprofessional on all accounts. Using Rockslide as a platform to bash on Troy Sessions and his business is pathetic, and says everything about your character.

What we don’t see is Troy Sessions waisting his time saying anything about you (much respect). Clearly he doesn’t waist his time about your lies and childish bantering.

If you're so interested about sharing the truth then why didn't you share about his success rate. From what I hear his clients rival everyone.

No respect for you Larry Bartlet.... NONE!
Have you read some of Larry's numerous threads he has started? I suggest reading those before you make supurious correlations between his "sponsor" status and his character.

Seems like most (8/9?) of your posts here on Rokslide (a total of 9) have all been related to Troy Sessions/60cm club. I'm sure that's just a random coincidence......
 

Sawtoothsteve

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I'm posting on this forum only about the four groups who have contacted me reporting negative experiences this year with Troy Sessions hunt planning. I can't help them for four years, but you guys should know what's being reported, IMO.

One of his charter companies evidently are telling his clients to call me next time. But that's the wrong answer because I can't help them for years.

Sessions is a competitor of mine so take this for what its worth...to his supporters on this forum just know this is for those who might be thinking of hiring him.

If you want firsthand feedback about him, contact one of the pilots he used this year when no one else would work with him. Myles Thomas Aviation Expeditions (FBKS). Also call Wright Air service and speak with Christina (Charter dept.).

One group had to get helicoptered out of GMU 24 (with permission from the Troopers) because Troy planned for them to hunt later than typical freeze up in one of my areas. I had to abandon this spot because he's moved in with his groups. But groups have to be off that lake about 5 days before the season ends because it freezes earlier than most lakes in that GMU.

Two groups had to get dropped off in a different spot than Sessions planned because the spot was inappropriate for landing and floating conditions and they didn't have a Plan B. They got caribou and didn't see any moose, which is what they claim was their primary goal.

One group claimed his pilot complained about Sessions operation on the flight inbound to the point where it creeped them out. They had a few issues with the information they were given about the river not being accurate or as sold to them.

Just be careful and do your homework by calling pilots he uses (not me). It'll be difficult because he has to switch transporters every year for the same reasons as above.

Please don't bother slamming me for reporting hearsay info about a competitor. I don't need his business, clients, or friends. This report is for those guys who want the truth before committing an investment to hunt in Alaska.
Forum followers,

I feel compelled to respond to this thread to provide some first hand information. My hunting partner and I are the hunters who were evacuated by helicopter this year and we did our hunt planning through 60 Inch Club. I want to be sure that as I send this post, I am only trying to provide accurate information. Larry, I'm not calling you out as spreading misinformation as I don't know what you might have been told by others, so I'll simply assume you were given some incorrect information. Also, I'm not here to defend Troy, as he can defend himself. I do, however, want to provide accurate information, as all of us on this forum depend on reports from others to help us plan for future hunts, including me.

A few years ago, my hunting partner and I were looking for a remote, unguided adventure for an Alaska moose hunt, and used this forum as one of our information sources to begin the planning. This was to be our 3rd moose hunt together, with the previous two being one guided, and one unguided. Each of our previous hunts have had their own challenges from guides not wanting to hunt as hard as we did, to inferior gear provided. We have archery hunted elk in remote, backpack only hunt areas in Idaho for 30 years, and are comfortable in remote areas, comfortable with our survival skills, and prefer our own gear. We also do a lot of scouting in advance of hunts to understand the area, but living in the lower 48 does not make that practical for an Alaska hunt, so finding someone who, in essence, takes care of the scouting for us made a lot of sense to us.

The hunt we had this year was all of the adventure we were hoping for. We saw bear, caught grayling, saw some amazingly beautiful country, heard the wolves at night, saw some northern lights, worked our butts off, and I harvested a nice mature bull moose. The information obtained by Troy was invaluable in keeping us focused on areas that held bulls. Are there some things we are communicating to Troy that we were not 100% pleased with, sure, but that has been true for every hunt I have been on, including my own Idaho hunts. That's also true for many of us on the forum as evidenced by the annual "gear that worked/didn't work" thread being one of the largest threads of the year.

The information that is not accurately posted by Larry is that Troy did not plan for us to come out late. The original plan Troy had for us was to come out in advance of the season's end. For reasons that I will not get into in this post other than it had nothing to do with Troy, our exit date had to be changed after we got to Alaska. That said, it is accurate that our LZ Lake froze when the weather changed pretty dramatically in a matter of a couple of days, and we were 15 days into a 10 day trip plan when the helicopter arrived. Myles Thomas was our pilot, contracted by us, not by Troy. I cannot say enough about the professionalism of Mr. Thomas and the assistance he provided in getting us safely extracted via helicopter. A big thank you to Mr. Thomas for sticking with us until we arrived safely back to Fairbanks, including driving from Fairbanks to north of the Yukon bridge to provide ground transport from where the helicopter dropped us.

In summary, we had a grand adventure with an unplanned ending. I am appreciative of the information Troy did supply to us, I harvested a nice moose, and I checked nearly every box on my wish list for the trip. Much was learned for a future trip north. When you go it on your own (paid for scouting notwithstanding), you do assume responsibility for for all contingencies. No guide will be there for you, so plan accordingly. Previous trip learnings helped us on this trip as we were prepared with food and gear that helped us deal with a 50% increase of time in field.

I hope this helps someone on the forum with accurate information. Again, Larry, I am not calling you out. For all I know, we may connect and I'll use your services sometime in the future. I just felt compelled to provide the first hand account so those who want to jump in and start bashing and piling on when they don't have the facts can stop.

As a side note, it is amusing to me when there is a little blood in the water about something not going as planned it becomes the "scout's" fault, but when the idea of paying a scout for information is debated on this forum, there is all kinds of bashing going on (probably from forum members who gladly pay a guide for scouting AND to take care of them in the wilderness, not just scout). We paid for the scouting information and then went on our adventure at our own risk.
 
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Sawtoothsteve

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Larry is one of the good guys, if he's on here telling you about some shady operations, it's likely for good reason and he's only looking out for you. He's not running around making sh*t up
Nick,

I have appreciated your posts on the forum, and they have provided help to me and I am sure countless others who pursue information here. That said, I need to take exception to your post on this thread. In 2019, you posted multiple times in support of 60 inch club. In one post, you even claimed to know Troy, and in another, you stated:
'If you are looking for a DIY Option that eliminates much of the pre-work/guess work, I'd opt for Troy Sessions with the 60 Inch Club or whatever he is calling it. That, or Billy Molls."

I will say that your 2019 posts were contributory to our planning of this year's hunt and booking with Troy as you are a frequent poster on this forum and always seem willing to help out others. Therefore, I am probably more critical of your post in this thread as your voice is one I think many have come to trust (me included) for information about all things Alaska. If you know something about Troy that needs to be shared, please do so, or at least take down your previously supportive posts of the 60 Inch Club as someone doing research can still see your support of using Troy. Piling onto a post with negative information about someone you claim to know doesn't set too well with me and seems out of character with the general tone of your many informative posts in the forum. Multiple posts from the same member with conflicting opinions also damages the reliability of the forum for those of us who use it to plan a hunt 1000's of miles from home.

I hope you will take this criticism in the nature it is intended, a desire to keep the forum accurate, and as positive in nature as possible, while remaining available for accurate, constructive, and specific critique.
 

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I have no experience with Troy good or bad. I have got advice from Larry and Nick that has all been good. I’ve also received good advice from a lot of others on this forum, especially the guys who hunt AK a lot or live there.

I don’t have a dog in this fight except that I never want to discourage those more knowledgeable than me from sharing the most current advice they have. I will do my own research on everything. That said I consider these guys advice part of that research. I always try to remind readers that I’m no expert while sharing all that I can on what did or didn’t work for my group.

I say let people say what they will and we can all do our homework from there. I appreciate the info from you who have hunted with Troy for this reason also. Lay it all out and let readers sort it out.

Thanks to all who have replied.


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My post was about Larry, not Troy. Glad you had a good hunt and returned safely!
" you are looking for a DIY Option that eliminates much of the pre-work/guess work, I'd opt for Troy Sessions with the 60 Inch Club or whatever he is calling it. That, or Billy Molls"

That's a cut and paste. I thought I had that in my notes also.
 

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Thank you all for contributing to this post regardless of your views or affiliation :)
 

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Thanks Larry, your information could save someone’s life.

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Larry Bartlett

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I got your sit rep from a Trooper friend and the pilot. Myles was counting on Troy to help organize the fiasco but Troy had gone to canada for a hunt so it stressed him out trying to help close the gap. Thanks for clarifying your true situation. I'm really glad you had a great trip regardless of the helicopter extraction. That place is very special.
 
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Oldcrustydrawers, thanks for your 9 posts and two cents. Curious if you still believe Troy is a veteran helicopter pilot who fought in a war? How much do you really know about the guy you're so fearlessly defending? You should ask him to show you a DD214. Might change your position.

My sponsorship here has nothing to do with hunt planning, so your profit-driven comment is moot.

Troy doesn't say anything about me because he can't. His entire business model is a copy of mine, so he should have nothing but stellar things to report about me and my reputation.

Contributions support reputation, not smoke and mirrors.
 
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In consideration of this thread,





The reason I started 60 Inch Club was to level the playing field from the guides who have ruled for so long. I knew of so many good places, much better than the guides, I figured why not share these spectacular places with people who otherwise wouldn’t know where to start. I certainly cannot hunt all of these locations so why not help others?
I also learned early on that you don’t need a guide to be successful and I wanted to share what I have learned after taking so many giant animals over the years myself.

My places are special, and require specialized pilots, with highly modified airplanes who have the unique training to get folks into these challenging areas safely.
I say this because finding these kinds of pilots can be tough. As a pilot myself I know what I’m looking for.

The hate speech I have experienced from this website has been overwhelming and has taken away the allure of sharing my places and knowledge and I’m sure that’s music to one persons ears.

This thread has already been called out by “sawtoothsteve” since he obviously didn’t call Rockslide or LB and speaks volumes about the intentions of this thread and about the source.

After reading everyones post deciphering what happened and who to believe or not believe, or who has underlining intentions, it’s time the FACTS come from the source.

When dealing with several different types of Transporter/Air Taxi services there can be complications, especially when dealing with Mother Nature.
As a pilot myself, I too am subject to these adjustments, especially when flying into wilderness locations with the ever presence of weather, high or low water levels, gravel bars diminishing, etc. Over the years of flying I have learned to expect the “un-expected” usually resulting in finding even better hunting locations with better hunting conditions.

When a Transporter/Air Taxi Service arbitrarily decides not to provide the services they promised and without going over it with me or the people who paid for their services there is nothing I can do about that except, never use their services again.
I will point out that Larry Bartlet also uses Wrights Air, the guys who were involved all said they would NEVER use them again, neither will 60 Inch Club.

Even though these guys were successful we are still working on a solution that is best for both parties and will continue to do so. After all we started 60 Inch Club to help people.

If any of you wish to see the facts of our 2021 success (9 giant moose and 15 caribou taken) by our DIY hunters you can go to our club website and watch the video for yourself, and there is nothing “shady” about the facts shared.



My service records have NEVER been called out before, especially by someone who hasn’t earned the respect required of serving this great nation himself.
In the realm of Veterans everywhere this would be considered blasphemous on all accounts .

FACT: I served in the United States Air-Force during Desert Storm and spent several tours during the war as a F-15, F-16 and A-10 weapons systems specialist. I spent four years stationed in Alaska at Elmendorf-JBEAR Air Force Base at the 54 fighter squadron. I also had the base commander send me a letter thanking me for my service and asked me to re-up another 4 years. I later departed the Air-Force with an Honorable discharge and the highest skill level training one could achieve.
I absolutely do have my DD Form 214 and will ONLY provide it to a federal agency when needed for appointments, or medical.

I don’t see anywhere in this thread stating I was a helicopter pilot?

LB, our companies are completely different. My company has a PILOT and a AIRPLANE and capable of exploring & scouting ALL OF ALASKA many times every year.
In fact 60 Inch Club is the ONLY “hunt planning service” with a plane and pilot capable for hunting and scouting. Everyone knows scouting is key.




In regards to the game bags and rafts in questions, my bags are under “patent pending status” and are the first of their kind without question. Our rafts are designed differently than yours from CAD systems software and still allow for the 25% deviation for products that are patented.

For all of you who are not addressed to free commerce here is the link to the official USPTO website explaining Intellectual property (https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/trademark-patent-copyright).





LB


I remember you asking if you could hunt one my locations.

I remember flying you into an area that you otherwise would not have been able to get into on your own.

I remember teaching you how to call in bull moose and after your hunt you said you were amazed how well it worked and proceeded to tell the story of the bull.



This social platform requires everyone to understand the terms. One of them is this.
“When posting, no name-calling, whining, crying, sobbing, bitching, sniveling, sulking, bickering, complaining, or pouting! Members exhibiting this behavior will be banned.”


I think it’s time for Rockslide management to put a stop to this kind of behavior, especially from a Senior member. As mentioned above "members exhibiting this behavior WILL BE BANNED...





A wise man once said “if you don’t have any haters you are not working hard enough and I have many haters”.


Steve Harvey-





To all you haters out there spreading discontent I owe you a big THANK YOU, your hatred has inspired me to press on ten times harder. Thank you.

Troy Sessions
60 Inch Club
 

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I've never paid Larry for services, but did buy some of his products when I moved to AK in 2001. 20 years later he's still doing well. If you've paid attention over the years, he's pretty crass and to the point minus any sweet talk....

In today's politically correct, everyone gets a prize climate, I appreciate it.

Talking trash about a competitor in the nuts isn't classy, but saving someone the heartbreak of bullshit after the covid nightmare by telling them to do some research isn't anything I will comment on besides saying,

Thank you Larry.
 
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In consideration of this thread,





The reason I started 60 Inch Club was to level the playing field from the guides who have ruled for so long. I knew of so many good places, much better than the guides, I figured why not share these spectacular places with people who otherwise wouldn’t know where to start. I certainly cannot hunt all of these locations so why not help others?
I also learned early on that you don’t need a guide to be successful and I wanted to share what I have learned after taking so many giant animals over the years myself.

My places are special, and require specialized pilots, with highly modified airplanes who have the unique training to get folks into these challenging areas safely.
I say this because finding these kinds of pilots can be tough. As a pilot myself I know what I’m looking for.

The hate speech I have experienced from this website has been overwhelming and has taken away the allure of sharing my places and knowledge and I’m sure that’s music to one persons ears.

This thread has already been called out by “sawtoothsteve” since he obviously didn’t call Rockslide or LB and speaks volumes about the intentions of this thread and about the source.

After reading everyones post deciphering what happened and who to believe or not believe, or who has underlining intentions, it’s time the FACTS come from the source.

When dealing with several different types of Transporter/Air Taxi services there can be complications, especially when dealing with Mother Nature.
As a pilot myself, I too am subject to these adjustments, especially when flying into wilderness locations with the ever presence of weather, high or low water levels, gravel bars diminishing, etc. Over the years of flying I have learned to expect the “un-expected” usually resulting in finding even better hunting locations with better hunting conditions.

When a Transporter/Air Taxi Service arbitrarily decides not to provide the services they promised and without going over it with me or the people who paid for their services there is nothing I can do about that except, never use their services again.
I will point out that Larry Bartlet also uses Wrights Air, the guys who were involved all said they would NEVER use them again, neither will 60 Inch Club.

Even though these guys were successful we are still working on a solution that is best for both parties and will continue to do so. After all we started 60 Inch Club to help people.

If any of you wish to see the facts of our 2021 success (9 giant moose and 15 caribou taken) by our DIY hunters you can go to our club website and watch the video for yourself, and there is nothing “shady” about the facts shared.



My service records have NEVER been called out before, especially by someone who hasn’t earned the respect required of serving this great nation himself.
In the realm of Veterans everywhere this would be considered blasphemous on all accounts .

FACT: I served in the United States Air-Force during Desert Storm and spent several tours during the war as a F-15, F-16 and A-10 weapons systems specialist. I spent four years stationed in Alaska at Elmendorf-JBEAR Air Force Base at the 54 fighter squadron. I also had the base commander send me a letter thanking me for my service and asked me to re-up another 4 years. I later departed the Air-Force with an Honorable discharge and the highest skill level training one could achieve.
I absolutely do have my DD Form 214 and will ONLY provide it to a federal agency when needed for appointments, or medical.

I don’t see anywhere in this thread stating I was a helicopter pilot?

LB, our companies are completely different. My company has a PILOT and a AIRPLANE and capable of exploring & scouting ALL OF ALASKA many times every year.
In fact 60 Inch Club is the ONLY “hunt planning service” with a plane and pilot capable for hunting and scouting. Everyone knows scouting is key.




In regards to the game bags and rafts in questions, my bags are under “patent pending status” and are the first of their kind without question. Our rafts are designed differently than yours from CAD systems software and still allow for the 25% deviation for products that are patented.

For all of you who are not addressed to free commerce here is the link to the official USPTO website explaining Intellectual property (https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/trademark-patent-copyright).





LB


I remember you asking if you could hunt one my locations.

I remember flying you into an area that you otherwise would not have been able to get into on your own.

I remember teaching you how to call in bull moose and after your hunt you said you were amazed how well it worked and proceeded to tell the story of the bull.



This social platform requires everyone to understand the terms. One of them is this.
“When posting, no name-calling, whining, crying, sobbing, bitching, sniveling, sulking, bickering, complaining, or pouting! Members exhibiting this behavior will be banned.”


I think it’s time for Rockslide management to put a stop to this kind of behavior, especially from a Senior member. As mentioned above "members exhibiting this behavior WILL BE BANNED...





A wise man once said “if you don’t have any haters you are not working hard enough and I have many haters”.


Steve Harvey-





To all you haters out there spreading discontent I owe you a big THANK YOU, your hatred has inspired me to press on ten times harder. Thank you.

Troy Sessions
60 Inch Club


I sure hope this thread does not come down like most sites.

If everyone keeps it civil and find a way to not talk in circles, Valid points can be made and we can all learn from it.
 
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