Arizona Mountain Lion question

Pathfinder27

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Hey all, I have a mountain lion hunting question that I'm sure has been asked before. I just didn't have much luck with the search feature so please forgive me if it's a repeat. I just moved back to Arizona after being gone for about 20 years and decided I'd pick up an OTC mountain lion tag when I bought my deer tag; I didn't draw anything this year so it's all OTC for me.

How feasible is it to get on a lion without dogs? Has anyone on here had any success without dogs in AZ before? I'm open to any suggestions on how to find them, call them, or even parts of the state where I might have a higher chance of even seeing one. Lion hunting had never crossed my mind but the girl at the counter asked if I wanted one so I said why not.
 

AZ_Hunter_2000

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Something like 90% of lions are taken with hounds and 9.something percent are incidental (hunting other animals) and the remaining is specifically hunting lions without hounds.

Lions are just about everywhere in the state. The odds are a lion will see you and you’ll never know it’s there.

You can predator call. Just be patient and watch your movement. However you never know what will come in so be prepared.

Have realistic expectations especially since you’re bow hunting. Pay close attention to the quotas especially if there’s been any snow. That’s prime time for using hounds and the quotas can be met in short order.
 

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It's going to be difficult without dogs but calling can certainly work. You have to be patient, lions take their sweet time sneaking in. You'll likely have opportunities to bag bobcats, coyotes and fox before that lion comes in so enjoy the chase.
 

rainshadow1

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Calling with an electronic caller and lion vocals is by far the best way to hunt without dogs. I'm from WA, but spent one day dedicated to lion hunting in AZ, and I got a vocal response. Had a guy put me near a beef kill, but still, vocals work!
 
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Pathfinder27

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Calling with an electronic caller and lion vocals is by far the best way to hunt without dogs. I'm from WA, but spent one day dedicated to lion hunting in AZ, and I got a vocal response. Had a guy put me near a beef kill, but still, vocals work!
Thanks for that tip. My plan was to focus on lion hunting right around the end of elk season where there'd be kill sights. My thought was I could get out, look for birds to tell me where the gut piles were, then I'd set up on likely approach routes to the piles and call. Don't know if that would work or not but I'm going to give it a try.
 

rainshadow1

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Good tactic for coyotes. Cats aren’t much for scavenging. Very rare that they even bother with gutpiles. That’s the main reason they’re harder to hunt than coyotes. Coyotes are much smarter, but ruled by their stomachs. Cats are... well, cats, sneaky by nature, but they’re picky eaters, they don’t eat discard. Almost never.
 

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Just left the White Mountains on a hound trip. 5 days on horseback....75 miles in the saddle...our group killed 3 cats. The only 3 we saw were all in a tree with a pack of hounds underneath. You'd think you'd see one out and about and you might wait a lifetime to do so!
 

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Just left the White Mountains on a hound trip. 5 days on horseback....75 miles in the saddle...our group killed 3 cats. The only 3 we saw were all in a tree with a pack of hounds underneath. You'd think you'd see one out and about and you might wait a lifetime to do so!
And no pix? Mods: can we give this rookie a 1 month vacation? :D

Me thinks seeing/finding a lion using something other than hounds is really lucky timing (right place, right time) or maybe there is fresh snow on the ground to make tracking possible.


Eddie

P.S. Congrats on the 3 lions.
 

TBossHSauce

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And no pix? Mods: can we give this rookie a 1 month vacation? :D

Me thinks seeing/finding a lion using something other than hounds is really lucky timing (right place, right time) or maybe there is fresh snow on the ground to make tracking possible.


Eddie

P.S. Congrats on the 3 lions.

Haha! Here you go. Only took me 18 miles this day to get it done. Gorgeous country and some rank terrain! We had really crappy weather for half the time we were there. It rained the first two days of the hunt and then Thursday was a complete rainout. I shot mine on Wednesday when the weather didn’t wash away the scent.

I definitely leveled up on my horsemanship on this hunt!

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