CodeMonkey
WKR
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- Feb 14, 2021
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Hi all,
Need some help getting dialed in and maybe tweaking a few pain points I've had with my arrows.
Current set up:
Hoyt Helix Ultra
334 FPS ATA
65# Limbs (peak weight around 67# after a tune)
30'' draw
Black Eagle Rampage Arrows 300 spine
29.25'' carbon-to-carbon
Standard 51 grain halfout
125 grain head
Standard R Nock
4 Fletch AAE Hybrid 23 + wrap
Total Arrow Weight: 470ish grains
This seems to be an all-around good set up for a wide variety of game and has served me well so far. I also like the cost of the Rampage shafts, so I'm not too upset when I lose one (I'm hesitant to change shafts to something like the X Impact as a result). That said, I have two gripes with my arrows:
1. I'm not a huge fan of the standard half out. Yes, they come with the shafts, but I've had issues with them popping off and also destroying the arrow if the arrow hits anything remotely hard. The most common failure is when I make a bad shot on a 3-D target and hit the internal support. 90% of the time, this means a broken arrow. As a result, I'm looking for first hand experiences of something more durable that won't drastically change the dynamic spine of the arrow with a ton of weight. Specifically, I want to also be able to keep shooting 125 grain heads since I want to avoid having to buy new broadheads. I'm also wondering how much weight I can get away with up front. The Victory calculator and the Black Eagle chart seem to be giving me conflicting information. I'm either flirting with being underspined or can add a crap ton of weight and still be OK.
2. I don't have a ton of confidence in my fletching configuration. It seems to stabilize mechanicals just fine, but I'd like to move to something a bit larger that also has the ability to stabilize something like a Slick Trick or other larger fixed blade broadhead. I'm on the fence about just moving up to a hybrid 26 (in four fletch) but I'm worried about the arrow "parachuting" at range. I'd like something that still minimizes wind drift, but gives me a bit of forgiveness in case the bow isn't perfectly tuned.
Need some help getting dialed in and maybe tweaking a few pain points I've had with my arrows.
Current set up:
Hoyt Helix Ultra
334 FPS ATA
65# Limbs (peak weight around 67# after a tune)
30'' draw
Black Eagle Rampage Arrows 300 spine
29.25'' carbon-to-carbon
Standard 51 grain halfout
125 grain head
Standard R Nock
4 Fletch AAE Hybrid 23 + wrap
Total Arrow Weight: 470ish grains
This seems to be an all-around good set up for a wide variety of game and has served me well so far. I also like the cost of the Rampage shafts, so I'm not too upset when I lose one (I'm hesitant to change shafts to something like the X Impact as a result). That said, I have two gripes with my arrows:
1. I'm not a huge fan of the standard half out. Yes, they come with the shafts, but I've had issues with them popping off and also destroying the arrow if the arrow hits anything remotely hard. The most common failure is when I make a bad shot on a 3-D target and hit the internal support. 90% of the time, this means a broken arrow. As a result, I'm looking for first hand experiences of something more durable that won't drastically change the dynamic spine of the arrow with a ton of weight. Specifically, I want to also be able to keep shooting 125 grain heads since I want to avoid having to buy new broadheads. I'm also wondering how much weight I can get away with up front. The Victory calculator and the Black Eagle chart seem to be giving me conflicting information. I'm either flirting with being underspined or can add a crap ton of weight and still be OK.
2. I don't have a ton of confidence in my fletching configuration. It seems to stabilize mechanicals just fine, but I'd like to move to something a bit larger that also has the ability to stabilize something like a Slick Trick or other larger fixed blade broadhead. I'm on the fence about just moving up to a hybrid 26 (in four fletch) but I'm worried about the arrow "parachuting" at range. I'd like something that still minimizes wind drift, but gives me a bit of forgiveness in case the bow isn't perfectly tuned.