Bernhardt E-Bike Order -- 3367

[chasewild]

https://www.nationalparkstraveler.o..._through_the_use_of_electric_bikes_-508_0.pdf

Enjoy this new piece of brilliance.

"b)E-bikes shall be allowed where other types of bicycles are allowed; and c) E-bikes shall not be allowed where other types of bicycles are prohibited."

 

[ODB]

So basically, an E-Bike is a bike. Got it.

 

[Newtosavage]

Beat me to it. I just heard this reported on NPR.

Up next - opening up wilderness areas to ATV's I'm sure.

Uncertainty about the regulatory status of e-bikes has led the Federal land management agencies to impose restrictive access policies treating e-bikes as motor vehicles

There is no uncertainty. The vehicle has a motor, therefore it's a motorized vehicle. Bicycles don't have a motor, therefore they are a non-motorized vehicle. Duh.

The timing of this couldn't be any worse. I wonder how many guys and gals are in the mountains this very moment, and left their e-bikes at home.

 

[ODB]

So, the sole issue must have been the exhaust....

 

[wapitibob]

Forest service falls under department of agriculture

 

[Newtosavage]

Forest service falls under department of agriculture

wait for it

 

[wapitibob]

Oh it’s coming.

 

[brsnow]

America gets fat and lazier each day.I carry extra supplies and first aid to help fellow bikers and hikers. I will let the e-bikers fend for themselves.

 

[Newtosavage]

That's just it. I find this order a slap in the face to all of us who work our a**es off year-round to stay in shape. Now, our reward will be to hike 3 miles in and get passed by some slob on an e-bike. For years, the most effective way to hunt NF around here was to ride a mountain bike in on one of the closed roads. It was literally the only way you could get away from the hordes of hunters. A whole group of guys and gals rigged up old mountain bikes - some with trailers - to take advantage of these closed FS roads. So much for that. Now anyone with a credit card can go further and faster than we could.

I'm not opposed to e-bikes at all, where they belong - on motorized trails along with other motorized vehicles. I've been looking at them as an option for years.

Now how crowded are the wilderness areas going to be? SMH

I won't be the least bit surprised if this admin. goes after our wilderness areas next.

 

[PathFinder]

Most of the wilderness areas I hunt don't even allow bikes, and so the e bikes aren't allowed either. Are the old closed roads the only place they're really allowed?

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[Newtosavage]

Most of the wilderness areas I hunt don't even allow bikes, and so the e bikes aren't allowed either. Are the old closed roads the only place they're really allowed?

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No, there are thousands of miles of FS trails that allow mountain bikes at present, and these motorized vehicles will be allowed there soon if the FS doesn't fight this. I can't imagine they will (successfully), so get ready.

Let your congressmen/women know how you feel about this. Just another example of the softening of America.

 

[HookUp]

I'm hoping to see more restrictions on bikes. They can ride with the atv crowd not the hiking crowd.

 

[Newtosavage]

I'm hoping to see more restrictions on bikes. They can ride with the atv crowd not the hiking crowd.

Seeing fewer trails where bikes are allowed would be a great result from this order, but it will never happen under this administration.

 

[akenkel]

Does anyone know a good resource such as a list of wilderness areas that allow either bicycles or e-bikes?

 

[MuleyFever]

Does anyone know a good resource such as a list of wilderness areas that allow either bicycles or e-bikes?

Wilderness areas don’t allow bikes or other wheeled things as far as I know.

 

[sneaky]

Wilderness areas don’t allow bikes or other wheeled things as far as I know.

There are a few exceptions that were grandfathered in, most specifically motorcycle trails.

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[mtnbiker208]

Does anyone know a good resource such as a list of wilderness areas that allow either bicycles or e-bikes?

wilderness does not allow any mechanical means of overland transportation. otherworks bicycles are not allowed in any congressionally designated wilderness.

 

[mtnbiker208]

ebikes in national parks, cool, to bad national parks don't allow much bicycle riding.

 

[sneaky]

wilderness does not allow any mechanical means of overland transportation. otherworks bicycles are not allowed in any congressionally designated wilderness.

There's exceptions to that rule, here in Idaho I know of a couple of wilderness areas with motorcycle trails through them.

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[mtnbiker208]

respectfully, where?
I live in Idaho.