nphunter, thanks for the input and tip, sounds very tempting. But man, Oregon is a long way from STL MO! Might have to put that off and consider in a few years when retired and have more time for the drive out.
I will second the Wyoming Reduced price type 6 tag or even a type 4 tag. Keep building points by applying for a difficult Type 1 tag and draw as your second choice. Most wyoming herds are over objective and there is a fair bit of public that is not wilderness.