Bring back made in USA..

[GSPHUNTER]

With the shortage of everything and the price tag attached to all good, I think it's time for manufacturing to shift back to producing products here in the USA. If you are waiting for the price of good to go back down, don't hold your breath. I live in so. Cal. uggh, and the number of container ships, last count 62, with 500k containers, waiting up to four weeks to unload is amazing. The cost to ship each container has gone up from around $2k per to $4500 on avg. Who do you think is paying that extra cost, us that's who. And it's likely to go higher in the near future. So with all that extra cost to ship from overseas, when will it become more financially beneficial to gear back up and manufacture right here in the USA. Or are we just going accept the fact that we are going to continue to be at the mercy of offshore goods, along with the increasing cost.

 

[CoStick]

Who would work in the factories?

 

[CorbLand]

While I understand what you are saying...even with the increased costs, it will still be cheaper to produce overseas. Bring things back to the US will still cause increased cost to be pushed onto the consumer.

From my understanding, the back log of ships is due to people not wanting to work to unload them here in the US. So if we cant get people to unload them, how exactly are you going to get people to work in the factories?

 

[D_Dubya]

Major shortage of labor right now - I can only speak for my industry (kitchen and bath; other products for new residential construction) for sure but there are not enough willing workers to staff the US plants to keep up with production demand. Current Socialist policies are only going to continue to de-incentivize folks from staying in/joining the workforce.

 

[southLA]

You can thank the docks and the unions.

 

[downthepipe]

There’s been dozens of posts over the last year about Made in USA. We all talk about it and want it but the fact is we are addicted to cheap goods. Supply/demand and market value of labor is being rebalanced aggressively. Labor and wages are the big topic. Lots of people blame unions, socialism, illegal immigrants, or whatever boogie man they come up with. Many people still blame unemployment benefits even though 25 states ended the federal benefit months ago. My feeling is that many business owners will either suffer or go out of business because either they can’t make their bottom line work paying higher wages, or instead of raising their company wages to compete, they will shutter. One thing that is happening is people of color who historically took the low wage jobs are looking around and realizing they would rather make $20 at Amazon than work in the ship yard or factory for $15 an hour. Big corporations are now so rich they can hire anyone they want.

 

[tdhanses]

I always thought most would like manufacturing to come back but now I see many just want to sit on their butts and do nothing, I’m afraid quality of goods manufactured here may not be what we expect and we can’t assume it’ll match what it once was, our society is lazy. People don’t take pride in the quality of their work, just go look at new home construction, barely meets code and finish work is usually crap.

Also if someone does decide to work they want $20/hr for crap work and experience.

 

[GSPHUNTER]

Guys while the dock workers and their unions are partly to blame, the big problem is, After things started to open up agin all the Co. put in mass orders and china and other offshore countries started loading up goods and shipped them out all at once and with the docks working the hours they do, there was no way to offload at the goods as fast as they were coming in. There are a lot of people who would love to work the docks but yes, the unions have that locked up. So, all your goods are sitting off the coast, just a waiting.

 

[minengr]

I'm all for it as long as the final product isn't crap.

 

[CorbLand]

Guys while the dock workers and their unions are partly to blame, the big problem is, After things started to open up agin all the Co. put in mass orders and china and other offshore countries started loading up goods and shipped them out all at once and with the docks working the hours they do, there was no way to offload at the goods as fast as they were coming in. There are a lot of people who would love to work the docks but yes, the unions have that locked up. So, all your goods are sitting off the coast, just a waiting.

I still fail to see how this would really be solved by manufacturing in the US...even when they get ships unloaded there aren't enough trucks to move it.

I feel that this is more a supply line disruption and regardless of where product is produced we would be in the same boat.

 

[kloppy]

Have thought a lot about this. In theory, bringing manufacturing back will unquestionably increase prices, but it will also require increased wages. It could be argued that that the increased prices will be offset by those increased wages, which if it actually happened, could be seen as a net positive.

Getting anywhere close to this point will require a collective change in mindset, which is unlikely. We have been asleep at the wheel for 15 years and most people simply do not care or are too dumb to ever realize it. Seems that some people are waking up though. Time will tell. In the meantime I'll be chasing whitetails.

 

[roadrunner]

While I understand what you are saying...even with the increased costs, it will still be cheaper to produce overseas. Bring things back to the US will still cause increased cost to be pushed onto the consumer.

From my understanding, the back log of ships is due to people not wanting to work to unload them here in the US. So if we cant get people to unload them, how exactly are you going to get people to work in the factories?

^^^This.

Perfect example is in my hometown area. There are ZERO experienced manufacturing technology workers here. ZERO.

This is the issue across the nation. There are areas of manufacturing, but to feed the "beast", it would take an influx of an infrastructure that just isn't here.

And, everyone in the USA likes a good paycheck, including manufacturing. Who doesn't...?

 

[mtnbiker208]

La-Z-Boy is out year to get a recliner made. Main reason: lack of workers and supply constraints.

 

[Lawnboi]

People don’t want to work in factories anymore, they all want to make 100k a year playing on computers.

 

[GSPHUNTER]

La-Z-Boy is out year to get a recliner made. Main reason: lack of workers and supply constraints.

Same thing here in So. Cal. long lead time on furniture and appliance. Agree on the labor part. people got to use to the Govt. hand outs and the got lazy. The more the govt. gives you, the more you expect from them. that's what they want, everyone under their control.

 

[ODB]

It’s a systemic disruption of the expectations of how the world works now. A generation or more of people are now convinced that freedom means the freedom from work - hard work. Not always physical, but time-consuming. Work is getting in the way of everyone’s “best life.”

Read Up From Slavery by Booker T Washington. This was the exact same mentality he ran into with ex-slaves. And it drove him nuts. To the point that when he started the Tuskegee institute, he made it mandatory that students must either help build or maintain the school in addition to studying there. He knew 100+ years ago that there is a direct relationship between a person’s willingness to invest time and energy into something (in modern parlance ‘do the work’), and a positive outcome. we have it all backwards now.

technically I don’t need another job, but when I see Home Depot paying $15 an hour for evening stockers I am very tempted to sign up, plug in my headphones with some educational audiobook and go pick up some of that money these lazy-ass people are leaving on the table.

 

[CorbLand]

People don’t want to work in factories anymore, they all want to make 100k a year playing on computers.

Serious question. Why would I work in a factory when I can make 100K a year "playing" on computers?

 

[mtnbiker208]

Serious question. Why would I work in a factory when I can make 100K a year "playing" on computers?

hence why more and more manufacturing is going overseas. Nothing wrong with it, just a production shift from one part of the world to another.

La-Z-Boy is building factories in mexico, not the USA, because of this.

 

[Lawnboi]

Serious question. Why would I work in a factory when I can make 100K a year "playing" on computers?

Not saying there’s anything wrong with it, just the reality of it. That’s exactly my point, why would you, when that’s an option. Working from home can be awesome too, and at the same time not.

Who the hell wants to build lazy boys for twenty bucks an hour when they can sit home and call people about their cars extended warranty and make the same?

 

[GSPHUNTER]

There are a lot of people who only have factory work capabilities, little or no computer skills. Problem is they are lazy and want the govt. to take are of them. If that would end, then they would take the jobs or starve.