Bullet drop depends on left/right wind direction?

[Turkeytider]

You are not missing due to AJ. Do not get mired in minor irrelevancies. You/we miss because-

- we suck
- scope doesn’t work correctly
- missed called wind

In that order.

The top one and the bottom one for me. I confirmed my scope is doing what it`s supposed to do. The external " laws of physics and environmental influences", and THEN there`s all the stuff WE can ( and in my case, too often ) do to screw up the shot. Lordy! Really makes one admire the Chris Kyles, Carlos Hathcocks and Simo Hayeks of the world!

 

[hereinaz]

You are not missing due to AJ. Do not get mired in minor irrelevancies. You/we miss because-

- we suck
- scope doesn’t work correctly
- missed called wind

In that order.

Always true. No shooter is missing because of failing to calculate for the amount of AJ on the shot. You will be a little high or a little low.

Bryan Litz agrees. It doesn’t matter on the shot.

It’s definitely not something to get wrapped around the axle as a cause for missing the plate or the animal at any reasonable hunting distance.

There is a place to talk about it in the “finer technical aspects” because ignorance can cause a cascade of frustrations or failures from “doping” a rifle on a home range and then being low in a new location and screwing with velocity in the solver to “fix it.” A 5 inch difference is visible on steel but still killing. That’s why you won’t miss an animal because of AJ at competent distances.

One way to deal with AJ is to just shoot and live with being a little high or low. Living with the tolerances and just go kill stuff.

The other is learn it so you know when it applies. And, be able to repeat exactly what Form did when someone else complains about missing because of AJ.

I think someone who actually keeps a DOPE book and logged wind and adjustments could see the trend—if they shoot enough and develop skill.

Knowing about AJ will explain things like why “my dope is off at 800 today” when shots are on target but above or below the watermark. They aren’t missing the target and would kill, but they shot low.

It will also help to make sure your dope is as good as possible.

It will also help shooters identify and differentiate between small variations and errors correctly. Was elevation slightly off because of the light conditions, suppressor mirage, AJ, scope tracking error, etc.

In the end, just AJ won’t make a person miss. But, it could be a contributing factor if the person is clueless and it stacks error and error.

 

[Formidilosus]

It will also help shooters identify and differentiate between small variations and errors correctly. Was elevation slightly off because of the light conditions, suppressor mirage, AJ, scope tracking error, etc.

In the end, just AJ won’t make a person miss. But, it could be a contributing factor if the person is clueless and it stacks error and error.

We’re really talking about a tenth, or less, of a mil for most guns and ranges. The issue here is how does someone that is “clueless” (or even someone that is competent) separate the error of AJ which closer to 1% of the total error out from the other 99% of contributing factors in any condition where it matters? And, it is less pronounced as range increases, so by default it is less and less of the total percentage of errors stacked. And, who is trueing at 800 plus yards in 20 MPH wind, and even if they are, there are so many errors and effects happening that worrying about AJ is objectively silly.
The media world needs to drum up content and so every few months or years it comes up with ever increasing esoteric nonsense to get people riled up and drive clicks. “How important it is to use G7 instead of G1 BC”, or now use CDM/etc instead of BC based models; “zero angle instead of zero range”, spin drift, and now the rage is aerodynamic jump. Once the clicking stops for AJ, they’ll find some other nonsense to get people to freak out over.

AJ, much like Zero Angle, is a red herring and a distraction from what matters.

 

[Dobermann]

We’re really talking about a tenth, or less, of a mil for most guns and ranges. The issue here is how does someone that is “clueless” (or even someone that is competent) separate the error of AJ which closer to 1% of the total error out from the other 99% of contributing factors in any condition where it matters? And, it is less pronounced as range increases, so by default it is less and less of the total percentage of errors stacked. And, who is trueing at 800 plus yards in 20 MPH wind, and even if they are, there are so many errors and effects happening that worrying about AJ is objectively silly.
The media world needs to drum up content and so every few months or years it comes up with ever increasing esoteric nonsense to get people riled up and drive clicks. “How important it is to use G7 instead of G1 BC”, or now use CDM/etc instead of BC based models; “zero angle instead of zero range”, spin drift, and now the rage is aerodynamic jump. Once the clicking stops for AJ, they’ll find some other nonsense to get people to freak out over.

AJ, much like Zero Angle, is a red herring and a distraction from what matters.

Yeah, but 'aerodynamic jump' combines a scientific word with one that sounds like movement, martial arts, and action movies. Sounds credible and cool at the same time. Like 'Shonen Jump' for adults. Or people pretending they are.