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JjamesIII

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I never had any luck with them, but I only used them a few times. My wife on the other hand went to regular visits for a few months. That is when I start calling them, feel good Dr. My wife would come back from a treatment and I would ask, how do you feel, she would say I feel good. that usually lasted until the next day. Then back to the feel good Dr. Never solved her problem, but she would feel good for a few hrs.
That’s what I’ve heard from some people. Is it really effectively “treating” the condition? It seems so 50/50 from what I’ve heard. Some people swear by it, others actually got worse. That’s what brought me to asking about them. I’ve picked up a lot of good information so far.
 

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Your body is a multi-faceted thing. I've farmed (milked cows), skied, played collegiate soccer, rode dirt bikes/atvs, ridden horses, built houses, operated heavy equipment and currently climb ladders as a house painter so my body is very well broken in. The last "ladder ride" that I took did a number on L4 and really got my attention. I've done doctors, chiropractic, accupuncture, physical therapy and massage. As a last resort, I have had a few surgeries. I have found that each has its place and I don't make any moves with out consulting with several of them.
I am very fortunate to live in a fairly small community and I have a great doctor that I trust completely that is open to having me try every option possible. I have finally found a chiropractor that after a few visits (successful) now asks me when I want to come back in. My massage therapist that I usually see once a month (usually in the summer which is my busy season) will recommend that I come in every 3 weeks. When I feel like my body isn't responding completely I will schedule accupuncture and/or physical therapy.
When you find something or a combination of, that works stick with it. Good luck with your journey.
 

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I’ve done construction my whole life and it’s finally taking its toll. C4-6 have facet and uncenate joint hupertrophy, which I believe is French for bone spurs. Then a complex bulge of the thecal sac. Among a list of other things found in the MRI

If any docs read this, would a chiropractor be a good addition to my treatment plan, in addition to physical therapy? I’ve heard people swear by them for lumbar issues, but this is upper back/cervical spine.

So far, months of staying away from archery and using a tens device has slowly made minor improvements. It’s frustrating, but I’m trying not to do surgery, if at all possible. The pain is now manageable, but left arm weakness is still very much an issue. I want to be able to archery hunt next year, but I’d hate to spend money/draw a tag and not physically be capable of drawing my bow when the season starts

I ended up buying a crossbow to hunt Ohio. I hate the thing, and I know most western states probably don’t allow them.

Read up on the history of Chirpractic medicine and the guy and ultimately his son and the family that founded the practice. You don't have to have an MD degree to be a chiropractor.
 

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I was always skeptical or anyone "manipulating" my body. I have been very fortunate to be healthy and basically injury free all my life.

I had a few nagging aches bit nothing that kept me from doing anything. I had a former client who I became friends with that was a Chiro, we did some trading basically and I went in for an evaluation.

I was shocked by my poor posture, honestly the visits would be worth just knowing about that for me. Then after my first adjustment my nagging lower back pain was gone, shocked me for sure, I saw him regularly for a couple years and now have moved away. But I would highly recommend a good Chiro, but like anything it likely depends on the individual.

One thing I will say is that one particular adjustment got less effective over time, I was anticipating the treatment and tensing up, basically making it ineffective. It originally worked quite well.
 

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Find one that is certified in CBP
Research carefully and go on reviews and the one that is going to treat the most conservative way also change your mindset that there isn’t a quick fix, you spent years wreaking havoc on your body and now it’s going to take patience and time to correct those mistakes. Chiropractic isn’t designed to be a quick fix it’s designed to help your body become better at healing itself.
Also check into a good physical therapist
 

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I'm sure there are a few good chiros somewhere, I just haven't found them in my 50 years of trying. If you simply have a kink in your neck or back they can usually get you straightened out without damaging something else but for anything serious don't waste your time. I've found it much more productive to go to the Dr and get on order for PT. Can't tell you how much time and pain I've saved going this route even though it takes longer initially to get it started. Find a good sports Dr and they should be able to send you to a good PT. Good luck.
 

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My BIL is a good chiropractor. He’d probably refer you to a real doc. He says that chiro care really only works when the patient makes effort to do the exercises he gives them. Otherwise they are perpetually in his office.
 

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Always best to start with recommendations, there's good and bad docs of every professio
 
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My wife is a PT so I am a bit biased. No doubt Chiro care has it's place, but it sure is a weird business model. For someone to seek care where you need to go back every two months basically forever and calling yourself healed takes some real mind bending. My best friend is a Chiropractor. He works for a large clinic and shares a space with a PT. He sets them straight and then sends them to PT to strengthen the area so he doesn't have to see them again. In his mind, if he needs to keep seeing patients for years on end, then him and his PT counterpart aren't doing their job (or the patient isn't doing their job and is wasting their time). The obsession with Chiropractic care in this country makes complete sense. It's the easy way out. A band aid to get people by where all they need to do is lay there. Much easier than the alternative which almost always requires exercise. Again, I think Chiro care has it's place, it has just turned into somewhat of a scheme to just milk money from people forever.

As for the OP, hopefully you can seek some help from an MD that can get your sorted out! It sounds like it will take a cocktail of different treatment.
 

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Chiro has helped me immensely.. .Finally started feeling years of sports (hockey, baseball, football) , riding horses, guiding/packing, and manual labor at about age 33.

I have "level 2" bone decay in my neck and back..my neck was curved completely opposite of what it was supposed to be. Couldn't get a deer gutted out without not being able to breath because my back hurt so bad and would lock up. Chiro did Xrays and we came up with a plan. 3 days a week of adjustments PLUS specific exercises and stretches for a few months to target those areas and my neck curve has come back around 85% and now just go in to get stuff tweaked here and there. And is mostly due to me being lazy and not taking care of myself.

Find one that is focus not just on cracking you but actually rehabilitation. Mine asked me specifically "do you want to feel better or get better"...I know A BUNCH of people that thinking just getting cracked is good enough then complain when their pain persists. You have to do more than just get cracked.
 

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Chiropractor can help big time if you find a good one. Unfortunately a common problem I see with people recommending chiropractors is everybody thinks that there's is the best.

I've been to four different chiropractors that friends swore were the absolute best chiropractor around. They were absolute trash, almost seemed like they didn't know what they were doing.

But I can say that because I have seen and regularly used a very good chiropractor who knew exactly what he was doing. He understood the body, nerve endings and where to manipulate to affect a certain area. You could go to this guy and tell him where your back hurt and he would massage a point in your hand or arm and you would feel the tension leave your back in the affected area. He would send you home with specific stretches and positions to do to help the affected area.

My wife and I have actually joked about flying from Wyoming back to New York just to see him.

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My wife is a PT so I am a bit biased. No doubt Chiro care has it's place, but it sure is a weird business model. For someone to seek care where you need to go back every two months basically forever and calling yourself healed takes some real mind bending. My best friend is a Chiropractor. He works for a large clinic and shares a space with a PT. He sets them straight and then sends them to PT to strengthen the area so he doesn't have to see them again. In his mind, if he needs to keep seeing patients for years on end, then him and his PT counterpart aren't doing their job (or the patient isn't doing their job and is wasting their time). The obsession with Chiropractic care in this country makes complete sense. It's the easy way out. A band aid to get people by where all they need to do is lay there. Much easier than the alternative which almost always requires exercise. Again, I think Chiro care has it's place, it has just turned into somewhat of a scheme to just milk money from people forever.

As for the OP, hopefully you can seek some help from an MD that can get your sorted out! It sounds like it will take a cocktail of different treatment.
Thank you, I share your opinions on perpetual treatments are not a road I want to go down. I’m also concerned with how some “adjustments” are made by sharply wrenching on a pretty important part of my body - my spine, lol.
I’ve gone through the numerous consultations with general practitioners and done numerous test (all of which are just generating money for the hospital) with no answers until recently. I’m finally seeing the spine specialist whom I wanted to look at me after my second appointment. He seems to have a handle on the injury, he’s seen this type of thing before. I’m hopefully optimistic- keeping my fingers crossed.
 

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My wife is a PT so I am a bit biased. No doubt Chiro care has it's place, but it sure is a weird business model. For someone to seek care where you need to go back every two months basically forever and calling yourself healed takes some real mind bending. My best friend is a Chiropractor. He works for a large clinic and shares a space with a PT. He sets them straight and then sends them to PT to strengthen the area so he doesn't have to see them again. In his mind, if he needs to keep seeing patients for years on end, then him and his PT counterpart aren't doing their job (or the patient isn't doing their job and is wasting their time). The obsession with Chiropractic care in this country makes complete sense. It's the easy way out. A band aid to get people by where all they need to do is lay there. Much easier than the alternative which almost always requires exercise. Again, I think Chiro care has it's place, it has just turned into somewhat of a scheme to just milk money from people forever.

As for the OP, hopefully you can seek some help from an MD that can get your sorted out! It sounds like it will take a cocktail of different treatment.
Do you change the oil on your car once and never again for 100k miles? I ask this question not being a smartass but too many people think we can do years of damage on our bodies specifically our spine and not need regular maintenance. We are a machine that needs maintenance just like our cars and trucks and in the end getting adjusted once a month after you are mostly corrected is still way cheaper than major back surgery.
Not saying medical doesn’t play an important role but PT, Chiro, Dr all can work together but I think our mindset needs corrected first that maintenance and prevention should be key in our healthy lifestyle and not focus on when something goes wrong I need a quick fix for years of abuse
 
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Do you change the oil on your car once and never again for 100k miles? I ask this question not being a smartass but too many people think we can do years of damage on our bodies specifically our spine and not need regular maintenance. We are a machine that needs maintenance just like our cars and trucks and in the end getting adjusted once a month after you are mostly corrected is still way cheaper than major back surgery.
Not saying medical doesn’t play an important role but PT, Chiro, Dr all can work together but I think our mindset needs corrected first that maintenance and prevention should be key in our healthy lifestyle and not focus on when something goes wrong I need a quick fix for years of abuse
I'm saying light regular exercise in most cases is plenty "maintenance" for most. But we have created a culture where everyone sits on their ass for 30 days at a time and then goes and pays someone to crack their back and neck and everyone acts like they're healed and that's all they need to do. Then they go right back to sitting on their ass to repeat in 30 days. And the guy collecting this perpetual flow of money labels this as a treatment plan and somehow acts like he's helping this person. That's all. Where are at PT the goal is to teach someone how to be active in the right way and if they do their job and people listen, Jane Doe never comes back.
 
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I have everything you have exactly plus a fracture in L5 and herniation In my neck s1 ( I think )
I have weakness in my left leg and left arm. I saw 2 orthopedic surgeons and 2 Nuro surgeons.
1 ortho guy said absolutely wants to cut my neck and lower back separate times Of course but he assured me I’d feel great in no time. The other said he would do it but doesn’t feel I get great results and when I’m crawling and exhausted everything else comes back and see him. He mentioned PT, yoga, pain blocks
Then both Nuro guys who had zero personality’s and people skills of a brick wall said nope. No surgery will help. They explained why but they geeked out I didn’t follow. My wife did and can get her to explain.
they did say Try the following epidural injections, physical therapy, yoga, poladies, weight loss and chiropractor with a BUT.
Both docs who don’t work togeather said the same thing almost to a T.
if you see a chiropractor don’t sign up for there 52 visits a year garbage and no matter how much they tell you they aren’t Jesus.
so over the last 18 years after breaking L5 playing football and having surgery. Ive done everything listed above. I still have moments where it gets so bad I can’t hardly get out of bed, I struggle at work, my wife says I turn into a giant A hole And I stop eating im hurting so bad. I crawl back to the doctor begging them for surgery. They give me meds, I get a shot or sometimes 2 and start PT over and sometimes weeks, other times it’s months to get back up right. Ill get desperate and go see a chiropractor and some time it makes it worse sometimes I get some relief. I’ve never walked out smiling.

So in short I think there a load I crap for me and will never go back.

My wife loved going! She wasnt hurting though Before hand
 
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