Yeah, the real value to the PMI methodology is when you get outside of construction projects. I've been fortunate to manage a lot of different stuff- construction, aerospace, software, testing. The PMI stuff really comes into its own when you do different stuff.Personally I've never put much stock in the PMP cert. I know too many people who couldn't manage building a dog house but met the requirements to take the PMP test and ran through the boot camp that helps you cram for the test. But for someone who didn't have a degree, it would give you some credentials.
I used to, but I don’t enjoy it anymore. I’d say it’s both mental and physical, I work 6 days/70hrs a week right now. Nothing to do but eat, sleep, work, and get ready for the next week. Basically running on coffee, Copenhagen, and ibuprofen at this point. I’d like to stay within the steel industry, but want a job that’s going to challenge me, which I’m not doing right now. While my pay has gone up nearly 50% since starting with this company, my job description is the same as it was on day 1. I want more responsibility and to be involved in the big picture side of things.Do you like what you do? Is it a physical burn out or mental burn out? If you like the field side, but just know it’s going to be too much on the body long run I would stay in the industry you know.
You left out clients...worst part of my job. I hate dealing with clients.A few others may have alluded to this, but I'm going to play devils advocate a little.
Are you sure you want to be a PM? Usually a salaried position, baby sitting dumbasses, fielding calls between engineers that screw the same print up on every job, subs that are the lowest bidder and can't read a spec sheet or contract, and corporate management that just want to see your numbers lower? Oh yeah, if you didn't Dot the I's and cross the T's in your previous time in the field as a hand, guess what, now you get to enforce corporate safety policy, and if you don't when things go side ways you get to answer for it because you didn't make Jose tie off when he was 6.5' in the air. Did I mention you're probably salaried? Also for most of the lucrative project management jobs you get to spend weeks, months, or years in the middle of nowhere, living in a hotel, eating out every night, getting to use half of your vacation a year, and if you do leave the job in the middle of something when you come back your tasks really couldn't be delegated and you're doing 2 weeks worth of work the following week.
If you answered yes to most of those questions and don't mind the idea of being a construction secretary, then welcome to project management.
On a serious note I've got a project management degree, the killer for me was the lack of time off. My day dream would be been to be a civil superintendent, as a Supt. depending on the craft you might not get stuck on the same job for the same duration as the PM, your pay would be pretty similar in most situations (You might even be hourly) and when the job is over you might have half a chance of taking some time off in between. Every situation is different. My experience was in Industrial Construction as a field engineer. It was a good gig, paid well, but I opted to get into government work so I could live where I wanted to live and get some time off. I'm currently hourly, work 4 tens in the summer, get 4 weeks off a year plus holidays, and can bank my overtime as comp up to 150 hours. I also make half of what I made on the road. I bring all of this up just to say it depends on your priorities. I am by no means discouraging you from becoming a PM, just throwing some things out there to think about.
I also had the desire to continue challenging myself at work and it eventually led to burnout. Now I also try to challenge myself by becoming more physically fit, being a better father and husband, as well as other physical and spiritual challenges. I think as long as I am being challenged in some aspect of life I am ok. Something to think about.I used to, but I don’t enjoy it anymore. I’d say it’s both mental and physical, I work 6 days/70hrs a week right now. Nothing to do but eat, sleep, work, and get ready for the next week. Basically running on coffee, Copenhagen, and ibuprofen at this point. I’d like to stay within the steel industry, but want a job that’s going to challenge me, which I’m not doing right now. While my pay has gone up nearly 50% since starting with this company, my job description is the same as it was on day 1. I want more responsibility and to be involved in the big picture side of things.
I’m sure I’m not the only one on here, but I’m ready to get off the shop floor and into a position with more responsibilities and a bigger picture.
A little about me, I’ve been welding since the Monday after highschool graduation and have worked for various companies for almost 10 years. I’ve done everything from sanitary stainless to heavy pipe and commercial construction. The last 3 I’ve been doing heavy structural steel. I work for a great company, with pay and bennies well above average, but I’m burnt out. I know my body can’t do this forever and not do I want to. I’ve been looking to make the move into an estimator/project manager type position but I’ve come to realize that isn’t going to happen where I’m at now.
Any advice from the guys who are in the management side of the trades on how to get in the door?
Dealing with clients is how I got to move over to the owner side.Lol, I forgot about clients, and clients representatives............and clients subs........