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Vandy321

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I really couldnt care less how others feel about my dog being off leash...it effects me not. It is laughable though how some folks thing their rights trump others...
 
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Daaaaaaaaaang. OP is getting after everyone on this thread. Some passionate dog ownership bud. Just make sure your pup has one of those little dog sweaters on when you push him down the trailhead in one of those little doggy strollers.

Everyone else...carry on.
 

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Sure you would.
This is too much fun. A bunch of grumpy old men, trying to tell other people how to live their lives, I love it.

Carry on folks, you wont be changing any opinions today.
It's that kind of stupidity which prompts us to carry.
You're the guy with the dog that's outta control trying to justify that 'billy behavior.

We should neuter people along with their dogs...
 

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I really couldnt care less how others feel about my dog being off leash...it effects me not. It is laughable though how some folks thing their rights trump others...

Oh the irony...

In my experience off leash dog owners are the most oblivious, self centered people on the trail. Your posts certainly don't do anything to change that opinion.
 

chasewild

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Find me some stats on your arguement that dogs kill deer/elk., or even spook them farther than a human pushing them..I'd bet it's so seldom, it is not tracked for data. But if you want to speak in hypotheticals, feel free

Complain all you like, mine will continue to run free, where it is permissible under the law

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I've got this 5 year old pure bred Australian shepherd. He's incredible, basically a Ferrari of a dog. He's on point and command about 82.333% of the time. But the remaining 17% is why he's on leash. It's like the pitbull owners that say "my dog is so sweet" -- ya, except for when he's triggered. Every dog is a dog and dogs bite, chase, etc. So ya, leash is basic.
 
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Probably lost in the weeds at this point but in Walt Protheros book Mule Deer Quest he recounts a story of seeing a dog off leash with a cross country skier. that dog chases a buck and when Walt goes back the next morning the buck is dead.
Could argue a 1000 points but it seems that deer used it last bit of reserves to avoid dog and then froze to death over night.
 

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I've got this 5 year old pure bred Australian shepherd. He's incredible, basically a Ferrari of a dog. He's on point and command about 82.333% of the time. But the remaining 17% is why he's on leash. It's like the pitbull owners that say "my dog is so sweet" -- ya, except for when he's triggered. Every dog is a dog and dogs bite, chase, etc. So ya, leash is basic.
Bingo. Plus you never know when your dog might feel threatened and snap at someone/ another dog. Also why you should give other people with dogs space. Not everyone is cuddles and fluff all the time.
 

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Come back when dogs off leash is actually against the law, till then, your opinions are just that, opinions, and same with CPW, opinions dont make it policy.
Exactly. Every time we see an antelope, deer, moose, etc on a hike, my husky takes a seat where he stood and just watches them, he's mesmerized. He was trained young with an e-collar. And I always clarify with hikers if they are ok with dogs before I let him approach.


Pretty harmful, I know.
The fact that you have a husky tells me all I need know about you (well, that and your posts in this thread).
 

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It would help if it was professionally written rather than trying to be witty. Regardless of the message the tone is poor and reads like it was for a high school writing assignment.
 
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