We were in an OTC unitI did read something a while back about predators in some units having an impact on populations, not sure the units though. I just thought of something else, the fires could be displacing some people from units, so that could be a factor this year as well. Still, i heard that the CBA had some concerns about decisions by the CPW on licensing. For those getting into elk i would be curious if it was a draw unit or otc. No need to list the unit, but just curious draw vs otc. Draw should be better i bet.