Four (4) Deadly Reasons Why You Should Not Purchase Or Use A Floorless Shelter

[whaack]

"Prevent Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome : A guide for tourists, campers, and hikers" ... Center For Disease Control And Prevention .. August 1, 2017 ..... "To minimize the risk for Hantavirus infection follow these precautions : .... Avoid sleeping on bare ground, use a tent with a floor, mat .." ........ And "Chief," thank you for your informative, and rational commentary ....

Wow. Just wow. If you’re worried about this type of thing maybe back country just isn’t in the cards for you.


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[menhaden_man]

Hate to say it bro but two seconds online tells me that you’re wasting everyone’s time. Do some math on the whopping < 5 cases in America and go get your vaccine.

Reported Cases of Hantavirus Disease | Hantavirus | DHCPP | CDC

Reported Cases of HPS. Provided by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

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[Rob5589]

Hate to say it bro but two seconds online tells me that you’re wasting everyone’s time. Do some math on the whopping < 5 cases in America and go get your vaccine.

Reported Cases of Hantavirus Disease | Hantavirus | DHCPP | CDC

Reported Cases of HPS. Provided by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

www.cdc.gov

Holy sheeeit! Time to mask up!

 

[180ls1]

Honestly, I dont want a snake crawling in. Not sure what the odds are but I am not risking it.

 

[Artanis95]

Honestly, I dont want a snake crawling in. Not sure what the odds are but I am not risking it.

Now this makes a forgivable argument.
Which reminds Me of a story, On a hunt with a buddy who didn't have a tent of his own so I took a 6 man tipi He is worried to death about snakes but big deal it's October, Anywho We're sitting there eating dinner when the Rangers roll up on Us just being nosey and My buddy is super excited to tell them about these river otters he'd seen earlier, Ranger says he's worked the area for 35 years and never seen an otter then they started asking about the tent and asked if having no floor if it keeps snakes out my buddy pipes up F no Ranger says ahhh be alright We don't have many of them up here anyway after they leave I ask if the Rangers eased his fears about snakes in the tent and without missing a beat says hell naw Mother FR's worked here for 35 years and ain't never seen them otters either

 

[180ls1]

Now this makes a forgivable argument.
Which reminds Me of a story, On a hunt with a buddy who didn't have a tent of his own so I took a 6 man tipi He is worried to death about snakes but big deal it's October, Anywho We're sitting there eating dinner when the Rangers roll up on Us just being nosey and My buddy is super excited to tell them about these river otters he'd seen earlier, Ranger says he's worked the area for 35 years and never seen an otter then they started asking about the tent and asked if having no floor if it keeps snakes out my buddy pipes up F no Ranger says ahhh be alright We don't have many of them up here anyway after they leave I ask if the Rangers eased his fears about snakes in the tent and without missing a beat says hell naw Mother FR's worked here for 35 years and ain't never seen them otters either

Hahaha!

Yeah, I hunt AZ and CA in the warm months as well. I'm not risking it.

I had a buddy when we were younger (kids) place his hand down on a coiled up baby rattler. Luckily he pinned its head down as well and it could not move. He was too scared to pull his hand away so he had to stay with his hand on it untill the ranger showed up with a shovel. That was the scariest 10 mins of his life lol.

 

[156821]

I know of a couple guys staying in a cabin during a deer hunt. They were drunk most of the time and never bothered to wash the dishes, just kept on using them. Both got very ill and one spent a long while in the hospital due to haunta virus.

 

[justin davis]

Lol these are a non issue.

 

[180ls1]

I know of a couple guys staying in a cabin during a deer hunt. They were drunk most of the time and never bothered to wash the dishes, just kept on using them. Both got very ill and one spent a long while in the hospital due to haunta virus.

This is why you use dirty dishes year-round. Your microbiome will adapt and then you're good to go!

 

[MuleyFever]

I know of a couple guys staying in a cabin during a deer hunt. They were drunk most of the time and never bothered to wash the dishes, just kept on using them. Both got very ill and one spent a long while in the hospital due to haunta virus.

Well they should have known better than to pitch a floor less tent in that cabin. Guess they know now that floor less shelters lead to haunta.

 

[Trumpkin The Dwarf]

This thread's still going? Y'all are real generous in feeding trolls these days.

 

[*zap*]

lobby for a government mandate of warning labels on all floorless shelters.

 

[sneaky]

There is still a mouse in orbit from schitting on me when I was bivouacing on the PCT. little bastid kept climbing on my face when i was sleeping. I felt a little mouse steamer hit my neck and i lost it.

I'm kinda excited to see if i can PR on the next one.

Ive had some close calls in the woods, but now i can add, "i got real close to mouse poo."

But, did you die?

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[5MilesBack]

Or making you wear a mask!!!!

It would be unconstitutional for the government to "make" healthy people wear a mask.

 

[Wrench]

But, did you die?

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That was 20 years ago, but it could happen any day now!

 

[5MilesBack]

With so many recognized medical authorities nationwide such as the C.D.C., Mayo Clinic, Washington State Department of Health, New York State Department of Health, recognized disease experts at UCSF Medical Center, as well as countless others, in addition to government agencies such as the National Park Service warning campers who use floorless shelters of the increased risks of exposure to not only Hantavirus, but other diseases transmitted by mice as well, it's amazing that any rational sportsman would ignore such warnings. We're not risking $50 on the roll of the dice at a craps table in Las Vegas, or squandering $10 on lotto tickets. The critical loss of one's health , or life for that matter, is clearly good reason for any rational, responsible adult to take "risk averse" precaution. But It's different this time, it couldn't possibly happen to you in your floorless tent or shelter, now could it ? .....

We're Americans.......many of us always have been. What makes America and Americans different than the rest of the world is the how, the why, and the foundation of our nation. The government has the right to distribute information and make RECOMMENDATIONS, but we as citizens have the liberty, the freedom, and the right to assess any and all risks........and then make our own choices for ourselves......on our own. Just because the government (and many individuals it seems these days)......don't like that we choose an avenue different than the one "they want us to choose".......doesn't change that.

Driving is most likely the most dangerous high risk activity that most Americans do in a given day. If anyone goes out of their way to avoid Hantavirus but continues to drive every day......they don't understand risk assessment at all.

You can live your life in fear, or you can just live your life. But God didn't create us with a spirit of fear.

 

[Crowmangler]

There's actually been about 10,000 deaths from this virus this year but they counted them as Covid instead... kinda like the flu & motorcycle wrecks

 

[Billinsd]

We're Americans.......many of us always have been. What makes America and Americans different than the rest of the world is the how, the why, and the foundation of our nation. The government has the right to distribute information and make RECOMMENDATIONS, but we as citizens have the liberty, the freedom, and the right to assess any and all risks........and then make our own choices for ourselves......on our own. Just because the government (and many individuals it seems these days)......don't like that we choose an avenue different than the one "they want us to choose".......doesn't change that.

Driving is most likely the most dangerous high risk activity that most Americans do in a given day. If anyone goes out of their way to avoid Hantavirus but continues to drive every day......they don't understand risk assessment at all.

You can live your life in fear, or you can just live your life. But God didn't create us with a spirit of fear.

I read your posts and often think, there are still some of around. Was your dad a pilot? My dad was and he preached to me how safe flying was compared to driving. I always heard of people getting hantavirus in cabins, and thought if I had a cabin, I would want to keep mice out of it. If my cabin did have mice, I'd probably review the guidelines for cleaning up after them. Rats and mice have always been known to carry diseases and to be avoided. I don't go anymore out of my way to avoid rats and mice for fear of hantavirus than for caution that they carry all kinds of diseases. But it hasn't stopped my activities. I know someone who got lyme disease in San Diego, who probably got it working outside his house. It almost killed him, because the doctors didn't know what it was. I got lyme disease vaccine, because I often got ticks when hunting. I also try to treat my clothes with Permithrum. I do plan my driving alot, and prefere to drive as little as possible and avoid heavy traffic.

 

[Billinsd]

Statistically greater chance of getting struck my lightening of having a tree fall on your tent.

 

[Moserkr]

I see your hantavirus and raise you the State of Commiefornia....