I currenlty have the Primos Terminator, I do like the reed for location bugles, but there is not much versatility with the reed. Once I take off the reed and use a diaphragm you can make any sound. Well now I am looking for a couple of bugles as gifts for my two hunting partners. I am looking at the Bully Bull, Pack A Bull, Chuckler, and Mini Chuckler. Both of them would be newer to bugleing if that makes a difference.