Help with arrow choice

nebhunt

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I just picked up my new Mathews VXR and its time for me to get an arrow set up for deer and elk. With my old bow I shot the Easton Axis 340 spine arrow cut at 29.25 excluding nock. I only have 4 arrows left so if I'm going to change things up now is the time. My draw length is 28.5 and weight is 65lb. I shoot 100gr fixed heads. With my current arrow I think the total weight should be around 422 gr. I'm thinking I may need more weight for elk. Do I add weight with a brass insert or the half out and if I do should I go with a 300 spine? The 300 is 10.7 gr and 340 is 9.5 gr. Thanks for your help
 

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I just picked up my new Mathews VXR and its time for me to get an arrow set up for deer and elk. With my old bow I shot the Easton Axis 340 spine arrow cut at 29.25 excluding nock. I only have 4 arrows left so if I'm going to change things up now is the time. My draw length is 28.5 and weight is 65lb. I shoot 100gr fixed heads. With my current arrow I think the total weight should be around 422 gr. I'm thinking I may need more weight for elk. Do I add weight with a brass insert or the half out and if I do should I go with a 300 spine? The 300 is 10.7 gr and 340 is 9.5 gr. Thanks for your help

If you like the axis I would just add the brass insert and a footer or iron will collar.


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nebhunt

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What weight of arrow do I want to be at? I’m at 422 right now and I think from everything I read that I may want to be at least around 450
 

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What weight of arrow do I want to be at? I’m at 422 right now and I think from everything I read that I may want to be at least around 450

Whatever you are comfortable with. I use 530gr for everything. So anything around 500 would be better than 422. There’s a lot of factors and a lot of people that kill elk/other big game with sub 450gr arrows. It’s mainly preference.


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The Axis spine is broke down fairly quick. I would think if your going to add any components at all you would want a 300. I would go with the Titanium IW components so that you can have some flexability with broadhead weight.
 

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The Axis spine is broke down fairly quick. I would think if your going to add any components at all you would want a 300. I would go with the Titanium IW components so that you can have some flexability with broadhead weight.
 
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nebhunt

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If I go with the Axis 300 at 29" and use the standard HIT insert and 100 gr head it looks like the total weight would be right at 458gr. Adding a titanium IW would put it at 468. Anyone know what the FOC might be on a build like that?
 

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I just picked up my new Mathews VXR and its time for me to get an arrow set up for deer and elk. With my old bow I shot the Easton Axis 340 spine arrow cut at 29.25 excluding nock. I only have 4 arrows left so if I'm going to change things up now is the time. My draw length is 28.5 and weight is 65lb. I shoot 100gr fixed heads. With my current arrow I think the total weight should be around 422 gr. I'm thinking I may need more weight for elk. Do I add weight with a brass insert or the half out and if I do should I go with a 300 spine? The 300 is 10.7 gr and 340 is 9.5 gr. Thanks for your help

The Axis are great arrows, I wouldn't worry too much about your weight. Those smaller, lighter arrows zip through animals.
 

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If I go with the Axis 300 at 29" and use the standard HIT insert and 100 gr head it looks like the total weight would be right at 458gr. Adding a titanium IW would put it at 468. Anyone know what the FOC might be on a build like that?
I did a quick calc and came up with 10.4%, based on a few assumptions including the 10 gr Iron Will collar.
 

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Here are some setups I've built. You can tweak the numbers but this will give you some starting points.
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nebhunt

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From the spine charts it looks like if I have a 29.5" arrow with standard insert, Iron Will collar and 100 gr head that I am right between the 340 and 300. My draw weight is 65lb. Is it better to go with a shaft that is a little on the stiff side? The spine charts seem to be a guessing game at best. Lancaster archery chat guy sounded like I could go with either the 340 or 300.
 

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If you are right on the "cusp" I would go to the stiffer side. The other option would be to cut your arrows a touch short (have to be in front of the rest at full draw of course). I like the spine chart at Victory archery, it allows for custom inputs and shows your recommended spine down to 3 decimal points so you know just how close to the cusp you are.
 
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nebhunt

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I just went to Victory archery and put the information in. It just broke over to the 300 spine but not by much.
 

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Were it me I'd probably go with the 300 spine and tweak the components to achieve the total weight you are wanting to have. If you want to have a high foc the stiffer spine will come in handy. FWIW I like to have my cut length the same as my draw length. At least as a starting point.
 
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