Idaho OTC tag-elk

ahard.270

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I am planning on purchasing an OTC tag (non-res) in a few days but after researching I can’t decide on a good unit. I was thinking salmon zone but everything I’ve heard is there is tons of hunting pressure in that unit and not too many big bulls. I plan on a backcountry style hunt so not afraid of the effort. Any unit/zone insights would be greatly appreciated. Also looking at sawtooth but those tags aren’t up for grabs until May.
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Kyle C

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Best thing in Idaho is just pick a zone and start planning. No matter what zone you read about you will find a even mix of bad and good things about the area. My experience the units with lower success and lower hunter numbers seem to produce a better hunt. Every unit that has otc will have elk, just have to be mobile and open minded.
 

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And to add to what was said above... get off the trail. Go to the last few hundred yards of the mountain top. Move and cover territory.

Go wherever the others are not. I saw, heard, bugled to and killed elk. Spoke with 8 other people that had been there. No one saw, heard or killed animals. But they never leave the trail and don't have the ability to keep moving.
 

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Pick a zone and get ready for the ass kicking to commence. I also was ready for the back country hunt and ready to put the work in. It’s a whole different thing when you are staring at the terrain in real life. It’s a great time. You are more likely to have a guy let you take his first born kid vs any Specific info out there
 

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and when you get things dialed and have a spot with lots of action for a few years a dick outfitter comes in and cuts a trail 4 miles into your drainage, complete with having his guides just walk all over it during the archery season so as to keep the elk out on you....and they cut the trail the day before the archery opener. Some of these Idaho outfitters have the most in common with their horses road apples.
 

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Just went on my first trip west this year and landed on Idaho. Heading back again this coming year. Prepare for a butt kicking! Feel free to message me with any questions. I suggest picking a area and dive in. Once you get there it doesn't matter how much you have looked at Google Earth, nothing will look the same.

Best of luck!
 

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Everything witten above is funny and accurate. OTC hunts are great fun. But make no mistake there is hunting pressure everywhere. The question becomes are you willing to work for that trophy. If you are then you are cut above the rest. Animals abound but they hiding extremely well so hunt smart hunt hard and you’ll be rewarded with chances. Good luck
 
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ahard.270

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Thanks for everyone’s tips. I’m in Texas and put in for NM draw every year. Decided this year I’d buy points in Montana and Wyoming and hit otc Colorado if I don’t draw NM. Looking at unit 751 for otc elk.
 
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and when you get things dialed and have a spot with lots of action for a few years a dick outfitter comes in and cuts a trail 4 miles into your drainage, complete with having his guides just walk all over it during the archery season so as to keep the elk out on you....and they cut the trail the day before the archery opener. Some of these Idaho outfitters have the most in common with their horses road apples.
If an outfitter is cutting trails that aren't on a map, then report them to the Forest Service and get their permit pulled. Guides cover ground to get their clients into elk, the harder they work the more likely it is they'll get a good tip. If you want exclusive rites to hunt certain ground, go hunt private property, otherwise put in some extra effort so you can out hunt the clients attached to the guides.
 

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Thanks for everyone’s tips. I’m in Texas and put in for NM draw every year. Decided this year I’d buy points in Montana and Wyoming and hit otc Colorado if I don’t draw NM. Looking at unit 751 for otc elk.

Rifle or archery? I believe all of the SW units including 751 will be draw this year for archery. What made you decide on 751?
 
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ahard.270

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Rifle. It’s closer to home (west Texas). I was looking at a website for harvest odds and they looked fair. Also I know it has to be a good mule deer unit because in the colder years there are some really nice size bucks that filter down into New Mexico. I though it might be a good opportunity to scout deer while hunting elk since it’ll be my first time in the unit.
 

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If an outfitter is cutting trails that aren't on a map, then report them to the Forest Service and get their permit pulled. Guides cover ground to get their clients into elk, the harder they work the more likely it is they'll get a good tip. If you want exclusive rites to hunt certain ground, go hunt private property, otherwise put in some extra effort so you can out hunt the clients attached to the guides.
While there is some truth to that, there's also another side to that spin. Lots of outfitters send their guides out without clients to pressure elk so that OTC guys who aren't paid clients don't kill them before their paid clients show up for their hunts. Be it archery or most likely, rifle. I see it every year, and if you ask them what they're doing you get the "oh, we didn't know anyone was hunting". Utah outfitters and guides are especially egregious about it, but some Idaho outfitters aren't far behind.

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While there is some truth to that, there's also another side to that spin. Lots of outfitters send their guides out without clients to pressure elk so that OTC guys who aren't paid clients don't kill them before their paid clients show up for their hunts. Be it archery or most likely, rifle. I see it every year, and if you ask them what they're doing you get the "oh, we didn't know anyone was hunting". Utah outfitters and guides are especially egregious about it, but some Idaho outfitters aren't far behind.

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Sneaks, definitely agree on Utah. Somewhat skeptical it's widespread in Idaho but interested to hear more about it.

I have an acquaintance get hassled in 37a by an outfitter about camping near them in one of the only spots to camp in the drainage. He was nice to the outfitter but I would have given him an earful.
 

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Sneaks, definitely agree on Utah. Somewhat skeptical it's widespread in Idaho but interested to hear more about it.

I have an acquaintance get hassled in 37a by an outfitter about camping near them in one of the only spots to camp in the drainage. He was nice to the outfitter but I would have given him an earful.
I can imagine how that conversation went. Doesn't take much to put people on edge on public land, even though they both have the same right to be there as the other. I think social media has only exacerbated the problem. Horn porn does crazy things to people trying to get those likes. Thankfully Idaho hasn't reached Utah's level in that regard, but it's only a matter of time before it takes hold. Unfortunately a couple of bad guides can sour the reputations of the reputable ones.

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