I’m not much into politics, but man this burns my a**

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Basically......people, companies and government do not expect any consequences for bad actions. I have had about my fill of that attitude.
 

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BTW, to your rich get richer comment

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Please quote me where I made any comment about the rich getting richer or any one getting richer for that matter.
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More of a comment on my part...and the indication from the article you posted about the 1%


So I ask again who are the share holders?
We were talking Cabelas here, Correct?

You have to go back and tell the whole story. This was a private company built from nothing....a success story in my book. The Brothers had all their eggs in one basket...and decided to sell a portion to hedge funds - essentially cashing out some of their assets. They should be able to make a profit from all that, right?

All the while they knew that the HF guys would, 1) take this company public and 2) eventually want to cash out themselves in the future.

How many avg Joe hunters made a pile of money when they bought Cabelas stock and it appreciated greatly?

You are a savvy guy, You know the evolution of these business models. I presented the Sears and Pennys example previously. Why do you think Amazon just spent $45 Billion to improve their one day shipping?

We have to look at the Asian income stats- a huge indicator; Educated, Hard working folks do well.....theres the proof. ...our system makes this possible. Sure unrestrained capitalism can be bad.

The answer is to Reign it in intelligently.......not to vilify success in the media and do as the Germans did, "These Jewish folks have too much of your money, attack them".


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"When less than 1% of the population owns more than half of all the liquid stock, bond and mutual fund holding by all investors. Who really are the share holders? "
Didn't I already answer this? The answer is the 1 percenters and less own more than half. They are the biggest group, right? It looks like you are saying business owners have an obligation to the share holders who are business owners. Are you trying to say the 1 percenters have an obligation to themselves? I need it spelled out more? Come right out and say what you mean.
 

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greed is good.

most americans probly won't admit it but it is the mantra most live by.


greed is what brought cabelas to rural towns in the first place. people always whine when the gravy train dries up.
 

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I think at the end of the day people would like to see a bit more humanity in the world. However if you suggest this you are labeled a socialist or libtard.
 

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I think at the end of the day people would like to see a bit more humanity in the world. However if you suggest this you are labeled a socialist or libtard.
to be honest, I would rather see much less!

at least much less pretending humanity.
 

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I think at the end of the day people would like to see a bit more humanity in the world. However if you suggest this you are labeled a socialist or libtard.
The funny thing is........back when America was a conservative nation, there was a lot more humanity here. But that has changed all the way around, and not for the better. And it wasn't the conservatives that brought us to where we are today.
 

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The funny thing is........back when America was a conservative nation, there was a lot more humanity here. But that has changed all the way around, and not for the better. And it wasn't the conservatives that brought us to where we are today.
It was not geared towards party’s, was pointing out that in this day and age if you suggest sharing or helping a person out in need you are labeled a liberal. Tough environment for helping others.
 

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The funny thing is........back when America was a conservative nation, there was a lot more humanity here. But that has changed all the way around, and not for the better. And it wasn't the conservatives that brought us to where we are today.
you are correct .

but because I am fair minded , I hold conservatives(myself included) just as guilty, for sitting back and letting it come to pass. we chose not to engage and now we will reap what we have sown (or not sown) same as every one else.
 

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I doubt there is much of anything that would still shock anyone , living in todays societies it is only so , because it is the path all have chosen.
not everyone, my family helps others and I am also raising my kids to be aware of other people than just themselves. You can be successful in life while still making a positive impact on others.
 

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It was not geared towards party’s, was pointing out that in this day and age if you suggest sharing or helping a person out in need you are labeled a liberal. Tough environment for helping others.
Some people just lack the intellect or willingness to look at issues for what they are. Its Its easier to fall back on the default of unthinking tribalism and painting everyone into us vs them.
 

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It was not geared towards party’s, was pointing out that in this day and age if you suggest sharing or helping a person out in need you are labeled a liberal. Tough environment for helping others.
that is just not so!
if you suggest USING OTHERS money , to help someone out you are not labeled a liberal, YOU ARE a liberal!

use your own money or effort to do it and you have earned my utmost respect.
 

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not everyone, my family helps others and I am also raising my kids to be aware of other people than just themselves. You can be successful in life while still making a positive impact on others.
you can. and many do.
what most don't do is speak out against injustice ,when they see it . most.... no ,... I think it is fair and right to change that to ALL , at one time or another, will turn a blind eye to avoid confrontation. this is why evil thrives.
 

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that is just not so!
if you suggest USING OTHERS money , to help someone out you are not labeled a liberal, YOU ARE a liberal!

use your own money or effort to do it and you have earned my utmost respect.
Probably both, use my money and help foundations that are comprised of others peoples resources and grants. I don’t mind being called a liberal. Just seems silly if you help others you are a liberal.
 

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Some people just lack the intellect or willingness to look at issues for what they are. Its Its easier to fall back on the default of unthinking tribalism and painting everyone into us vs them.
I don't think it is intellect but it IS willingness.. most are simply deceived because they have already REJECTED , what is good and right.


deep down ,they know they are wrong but it is imperitive to live deceived , in order to live with their choices.
 

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It was not geared towards party’s, was pointing out that in this day and age if you suggest sharing or helping a person out in need you are labeled a liberal. Tough environment for helping others.
Sharing and helping are not a liberal ideal, having the gov give is. I find it interesting that all liberal thinking individuals think that there will be no social giving if the gov doesn’t do it. To give does not make a liberal, to give from others pocket books does.

The fact you feel we lack humanity is because there is no value on family, god and country anymore. This countries morales are moving more towards the morals of ancient Roman that was a great society that crumbled because of it’s morality in the end. The far left want us to head this way fast.

Just look at any major democratically held city, one that has been that way for 50 years plus and look at the filthy, large income gap between rich and poor with very little middle class, constant hand outs and the crime. You want to see what the left wants it’s pretty easy to see what they will create as it is already there to see on a smaller scale.
 

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you can. and many do.
what most don't do is speak out against injustice ,when they see it . most.... no ,... I think it is fair and right to change that to ALL , at one time or another, will turn a blind eye to avoid confrontation. this is why evil thrives.
I think we are he
I don't think it is intellect but it IS willingness.. most are simply deceived because they have already REJECTED , what is good and right.


deep down ,they know they are wrong but it is imperitive to live deceived , in order to live with their choices.
Are you judging others or self reflecting?
 

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Sharing and helping are not a liberal ideal, having the gov give us. I find it interesting that all liberal thinking individuals think that there will be no social giving if the gov doesn’t do it.

The fact you feel we lack humanity is because there is no value on family, god and country anymore. Are bade is moving more towards the morals of ancient Roman that was a great society that crumbled because it it morality in the end. The far left want us to head this way fast.

Just look at any major democratically held city, one that has been that way for 50 years plus and look at the filthy, large income gap between rich and poor with very little middle class, constant hand outs and the crime. You want to see what the left wants it’s pretty easy to see what they will create as it is already there to see on a smaller scale.
back in the early 2000’s the exception for charitable giving was not in place for a year and the amount of giving went down tremendously. If the gov doesn’t provide insentive most don’t give for example.
 
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