Seems kinda heavy for monos. I'd give the 130s a try.It’s a federal power shock copper 150gr in 30-06. Should be pushing 1900fps at that range. Needless to say I’m not shooting them anymore...a bullet that can’t shoot 300 yards it pretty useless! I am gonna shoot lead when I can and Hornady superformance for nonlead. Would also like to check out the new Barnes extended range copper. Definitely an eye opener...
There is a direct comparison of handgun velocities compared to rifle velocities and the related damage correlated to the higher velocity ~2200The article is in the context of terminal ballistics on people, focuses on handgun calibers, and explicitly states velocity is not the key (numerous times)....and yet here we are throwing out velocity thresholds.
The bullet geometry, material properties (i.e. young’s modulus, moment of inertia, cross-sectional area, etc.) and the forces imposed (found from the work-energy relationship) will dictate material strain. Speaking only in terms of generic velocity really oversimplifies what’s going on and doesn’t take a look at the whole picture. Velocity in-and-of itself does not cause material strain.
You're missing the point...well, points:There is a direct comparison of handgun velocities compared to rifle velocities and the related damage correlated to the higher velocity ~2200
This temporary wound cavity as we expand and recover is different when projectiles hit at greater than 2200 feet per second. At that point, it appears we have surpassed the elasticity capability of human tissue and that temporary wound cavity begins tearing at its limits and margins and becomes a permanent wound cavity, which also is a conclusion why people who are center-punched with rifle projectiles typically succumb much quicker than people who are hit with handgun projectiles. The byproduct of that also seems that when when a rifle projectile at those velocities bypasses an organ, you will still have organic damage whereas a handgun projectile needs to directly hit a vital organ to do organic damage. Very big difference in the outcome most of the time
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I don’t own a 30 cal magnum and probably never will....good to see your biases continuing to shine through. I don’t live and die by KE because KE does not kill animals. Again terminal ballistics is a complex science and you need to have a good grasp on math, physics, mechanics of materials, anatomy, etc. to peck at the edges.406,
it's a pretty generalized article that people can take out of what they want. you can get as specific with it as you'd like but it doesn't change what the writer wrote. that 30 cal magnum that i'm sure you like so much doesn't produce much KE when you throw that projectile toward the animal by hand, does it? with velocity and weight (mass) comes Kinetic energy. it really is a big part of the equation. the author generalized it but without velocity you have no KE. objects always have weight or mass here on earth. it's true that the earth is always rotating but very unfair to assume due to that rotation the projectile has a velocity when it's sitting on the shelf here on earth.
i get what you're trying to say but to detract from the statement the author said is a bit of a stretch. all things being equal, the 180gr of mass pushed at 1100 fps vs the one pushed at 2200 fps....which one would you prefer to use on game animals? which one would do more damage to meat?
Calculates the kinetic energy of a bullet. May also be used to calculate the muzzle energy of a rifle or handgun cartridge and compare it to other cartridges.www.shooterscalculator.com
can you tell me what velocity that projectile on the shelf is going compared to the shelf it's sitting on? how about compared to the elk bedded down on the mountain side at the same longitude?And by the way, yes projectiles have Velocity sitting on the shelf....good lord.
You’re on the right track, kinda. But you’re conflating ideas. You need acceleration, not velocity for the needed forces to expand material. That is seen in the KE to Work relationship.can you tell me what velocity that projectile on the shelf is going compared to the shelf it's sitting on? how about compared to the elk bedded down on the mountain side at the same longitude?