Llano and Chama sizing

topher89

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I have a Llano Qz for about a year. I always wear a medium so that is what I bought. Fits well for the most part but the sleeves are a little baggy around the biceps. No big deal and a quality shirt.

Anyways, I decided to get a Chama Hoody to add another layer. I went to a local shop and tried some on. The medium Chama was huuugee! I tried on a small and bought it. Much better fit and layered well on top of llano and still fit well as a single layer.

Now I am wondering, should I have bought the Llano in a small? How does First Lite sizing work for you?
 

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The sizing difference between the llano and chama has been larger than we would like. For 2017 we have brought them closer together.The chama has gotten a little smaller and the llano has gotten a little larger but the llano is still designed to be a little closer of a fit for layering purposes. thanks
 

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I sure would love it if first lite started making tails on their shirts. They seem to be borderline too short if you are around 6 foot or taller and relatively thin.
 

Felix40

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+1 on the longer/less fat torso for the base layers.

I am glad to hear we may be seeing less change in size from layer to layer. Im typically a medium in everything but I need a large t shirt, medium chama, and small puffy. If i went straight mediums on everything my shirts would be skin tight and my puffy would swallow me. Im 5'9" 165.
 
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Chuck44

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I wear a Large in all FL tops that I have (Chama, Puffy, Stormtight, etc.) except the llanos, which I went up a size in to XL. My first llano was a Large but I finally decided the fit was too tight and I sold it and sized up to XL. I am 6' 1", 195 lbs.
 

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if it helps Both Ryan and I are about 6 feet 165 lbs and wear a med in everything but the llano series which we wear a large. KC
 

rgroves79

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Another bump for the longer/ less fat torso. I am 6'5/ 240 and the sleeves are just barely long enough on my XL chama hoody and Halstead. Both are a little baggy and slightly short in the body. The hood on the chama is a little short for me as well. I also have a Woodbury in 2XL and it is a little baggy as well, even layered up underneath. I'm waiting on my aerowool t shirt in XL and we'll see how that fits. Overall the FL stuff fits me way better than most, even without tall sizes.
 

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if it helps Both Ryan and I are about 6 feet 165 lbs and wear a med in everything but the llano series which we wear a large. KC
Is this true of the 2017 stuff, too? I wear a large in the 2016 Llano and have a 2017 version on the way.

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For us, yes. I still wear the large just as i do in the aerowool which the new llanos will fit like. That being said i now can wear a med if i want a tighter fit where as before a med was just too tight for my liking.
 

Hall256

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Yet another supporter for a "tall" shirt option, much like they did for their pants. At 6'3 and 180 pounds, I don't need XL but I feel like I have to for sleeve length.

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I'm 6' 225 and had a large chama QZ last year that I trimmed out about 6" from the waist and sewed it back up. Fits a lot better. I prefer a skintight fit for my base layers. I do wish it was longer.


Everything else that I have from FL fits great, though. Just Chama that gave me problems.
 
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