Military vaccine mandate

[GSPHUNTER]

How many guys on here are in the military or have family members serving and how do they feel about the vaccine mandate for all now serving ? If they really don't want the vaccine how far are they willing to push it? I think there are valid reasons for refusing that will be acceptable but aside from that, what are their option?

 

[Tahoe1305]

Flu shot among a dozen+ others are all mandatory. This will be treated the same. Really no different in my mind. Assuming same “feelings” about yellow fever when that killed a bunch of folks and they mandated it for certain locations.

 

[cnelk]

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This thread will be nuked

 

[jb1842]

I was in during the mandatory anthrax shots. Those stopped and the mandate was deemed illegal. Food for thought.

 

[sasquatch]

Many employers too! Including mine

Oh wait, it’s not a mandate to protect their sleepy selves. They just going to make your life hell with extra rules unless you get it


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[Pacific_Fork]

Im sure this thread will turn into a dumpster fire. I'm in favor of the old and vulnerable choosing to get the vax, but now with all the vax people spreading the virus and the possibility of being responsible for the virus mutating because the vax is far from perfect I dont see the point in the military mandating it. Every single person I know or know of (dozens) that is home sick with bad symptoms right now has both shots. We have been around sick people and tested 4 times and are not vaccinated and dont have it. This virus is weird!!!

 

[Hoodie]

The military vaccinates for viruses that have effectively been eradicated (smallpox). Flu vaccines are mandatory every year, or were when I was last in in 2017. This isn't anything unusual.

 

[GSPHUNTER]

I was referring to this vaccine in particular and peoples aversion too it. We all know about past history. When I was in the Navy, it was get in line and shut up. Back then before the kinder gentler military you did what you were ordered to do. The difference, virtually all those vaccine were time proven.

 

[Arbowhunter32]

I’m in the Air Force and I do not think we should be required to get the science experiment.

 

[Poser]

From what I’ve read, the mandatory vaccine will be the Pfizer version since it is now FDA approved. Currently about half of the military is already vaccinated, but if you exclude the National Guard and reserves, that number is much higher. The Navy is almost 75% vaccinated.

 

[KHNC]

From what I’ve read, the mandatory vaccine will be the Pfizer version since it is now FDA approved. Currently about half of the military is already vaccinated, but if you exclude the National Guard and reserves, that number is much higher. The Navy is almost 75% vaccinated.

I though the navy guys injected each other on the ships? Is that why their rates are much higher?

 

[Poser]

I though the navy guys injected each other on the ships? Is that why their rates are much higher?

The navy was/is having the worst outbreaks due to the nature of being on ships.

 

[grfox92]

You can get a religious or medical exemption for vaccines in the military just like kids can in public schools.

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[gelton]

While I am totally against mandates of any kind (what jb1842 said is true, it was found to be illegal to mandate the anthrax vaccines on troops) it is a touchy subject when it comes to service members since they are considered Government Property.

Court ruling again stops anthrax shots for US soldiers

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[KHNC]

The navy was/is having the worst outbreaks due to the nature of being on ships.

Spreading thru Seamen then? Thought so.

 

[GSPHUNTER]

I though the navy guys injected each other on the ships? Is that why their rates are much higher?

NOT LIKE THAT.

 

[Tahoe1305]

I was in during the mandatory anthrax shots. Those stopped and the mandate was deemed illegal. Food for thought.

While I am totally against mandates of any kind (what jb1842 said is true, it was found to be illegal to mandate the anthrax vaccines on troops) it is a touchy subject when it comes to service members since they are considered Government Property.

Court ruling again stops anthrax shots for US soldiers

www.cidrap.umn.edu

Maybe I’m missing it. But appears that anthrax wasn’t FDA approved. COVID (one company for time being) is. Comparing the two is a tad silly. Anthrax wasn’t a world wide pandemic (like flu, and a few of the other vaccines that are still mandatory).


Members won’t have a choice(if they choose to serve). Even with a religious or med waiver they will still be restricted from deploying and potentially even leave. If commanders can prove it impacts mission or force readiness (people getting covid does this) they will be able to enforce it. People not willing to comply will be administratively dealt with.

BL: members will have a choice. It’s a volunteer force. You will have to leave, not join, or get kicked out to prevent it.

FWIW I’m not saying I agree with this. But it is a reality in our force.

 

[HUNT>WRK]

What happened to hippa laws?

 

[Tahoe1305]

What happened to hippa laws?

Still exists. Doesn’t apply to this. Commanders have access to individuals medical information. Required for force readiness. Doesn’t violate HIPAA.

The way it’s been explained to me is hipaa restricts what health professionals are allowed to discuss with folks who are not the member.

 

[vortex]

Im an RN in louisiana and its mandatory at all the private hospitals i work at since pfizer was fda approved. Most every patient i see hospitalized at this time is between 40-60s and unvaccinated. Death at the hospital has been a regular occurence. I feel everyone should make their own decisions on this but you are definitely taking a gamble by not taking the vaccine.


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