If you're in the market for a new muzzleloader you might want to stop by your local Walmart. I caught it too late for the CVA Optima v2 I was wanting but they had it on clearance for $184! My Walmart still has some Traditions in stock for over 50% off. This time of year Walmarts usually have most of their hunting stuff on clearance. I picked up some Big and J blocks last year for 5 bucks a piece.