One of my questions about the point system in Wyoming is if I can buy a preference point this year (still have a few days to do it), then buy another when I apply for my hunt next year. Failing that, I'm not at all opposed to going in for a leftover tag even if it's a cow tag. If that doesn't work, I believe some of the tags go to OTC, but may be in difficult access areas. I can't sit here and pretend I'm even remotely clear on what unit I should apply in or what my draw odds are with 1-2 preference points. I've got a lot of research and scheming to do on that end. Assuming I can't get drawn or I do get drawn in an area I have no access, I'll default back to and OTC state.Wyoming is a draw state, very unlikely but still possible to draw with zero or even one point. I'd still apply but have a otc backup plan if you want to go next year.
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Great post! My intent is to bring a tent, good pad, and warm bag. I don't plan on being in camp during daylight. As far as food, the only cooking I'll be doing is boiling water for a freeze dried meal, and most of my meals may be of the sandwich or no-cook variety. I assume I'll be exhausted at the end of every day and won't have the energy or desire to do any actual cooking. I just need efficient calories. I don't plan on bringing many amenities.If you are planning to truck camp with the option of spiking out, my advice is to not get too fancy and over complicate your amount of daily camp chores. Keep it simple. For every comfort and amenity you add on, you’ll pay for it with time dedicated to logistics. You want to hunt supported by sufficient food and sleep, but you don’t want to be dealing with endless chores, tinkering, setups and breakdowns so skip all the fancy luxury aspects and stay focused on hunting. Everything; every single detail becomes a pain in the ass to deal with and the more you tack on, the more pain in the asses you will have to deal with on a daily basis. *It’s not a camping trip.* The camping aspect exclusively serves the function of effective hunting. It’s easy to cross the amenity line where that relationship gets out of balance. Take what you need to take to sleep well and perform well, but your choices on what to bring should be matters of liberation not excess.
I had bivvy hunting in my head when I asked that question. Thanks for the clarification!Are you saying I should spike camp it? Sounds like I would be in a similar situation as you if I'm striking out from a truck camp every morning. I'm open to it, just clarifying.
What you are thinking and what he is saying are two different things. I did my first archery elk hunt this year in Colorado and we camped by the truck and hiked in to our spot but when it went dry from pressure we were more moble than packing in and setting a spike camp where you are limited in how far you can travel. In a truck you cn quickly drive 5 miles down the road and hit a different drainage.
I'm 37. I've had a couple of shoulder surgeries on my right side (I'm right handed). Also have an impingement in my right shoulder and I get some numb fingers every now and then. I have some minor tearing and stretching in my ACLs, which mostly means I have to be careful on slick surfaces, rocks, and deadfalls. These are things I've been dealing with since before I got out of the Marines 13+ years ago. I'm in pain a good bit, but nothing earth shattering. Still do all the things I want to do including drawing a bow and hiking back home. I may have a low back issue, but for now it only leads to soreness and stiffness. Shedding weight will help with that. I could end up being totally wrong, but I feel pretty good about being able to put my head down and push through so these things don't limit me too much.How old are you and do you have any physical limitations?
I am 53 and did my first elk hunt this September in NW Colorado with elevations from 7500-10,000 feet. I live a block to the water on the NJ Shore so you can't get much lower elevation than I live.
In 2010 I had a Widow Maker Heart attack at the age of 43. Seven months after winning the Pan Ams for Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. I have had surgery on my right knee 3 times from college football. I also had a construction accident after Hurricane Sandy where I fell through the steps between my first and second floors of my home due to rusted nails from the flooding we experienced. In the fall I herniated 3 discs in my neck and 3 in the lumbar region. I was in PT for 7 months and had an epidural and could barely walk around the block for a year.
I worked out doing a combination of yoga, body weight exercises heavy on planks to work the core and a kettle bell lifting program and rucked 2-3 days a week before work 2-4 miles with a 40 pound pack. It worked out well for me!
I also wore a Fitbit and watched my heart rate. I had it peak as high as 196 beats per minute on the elk hunt which is crazy high. When I got it over 180 I would rest and drink water for 10-15 minutes to get the heart rate below 140. I could go all day as long I keep the heart rate below 180 which is still much higher than what would be for most people my age.
I am addicted now and looking forward to next year and plan on being in better shape which should make the experience even more fun! Good luck with your upcoming hunt!
I doubt I'll go the generator route, but that's a really slick idea on using the freezer as a cooler.I bought a 5CU deep freezer from Home Depot for $125.00. I put it in the back of my truck and fill it and another 110 qt cooler with frozen bottles before I leave town. I carry one or two additional 80 quart coolers because I have them but can likely do without them. We run the freezer occasionally with a generator but it will hold ice just fine without the generator.
Cheap freezer for the price of a cooler and you have a deep freeze when you return home.
I think I would look for good hunting that keeps your drive the shortest especially if driving solo. It will reduce fatigue and give you a couple extra days of hunting.
If you look through the draw results from this year you'll have a pretty good idea which areas you could have a shot with no points. That's my plan for 2020. Like below you can see that a special general tag in the random draw is about a 25% chance, so with zero points you'd have a 1 in 4 chance on a general tag.One of my questions about the point system in Wyoming is if I can buy a preference point this year (still have a few days to do it), then buy another when I apply for my hunt next year. Failing that, I'm not at all opposed to going in for a leftover tag even if it's a cow tag. If that doesn't work, I believe some of the tags go to OTC, but may be in difficult access areas. I can't sit here and pretend I'm even remotely clear on what unit I should apply in or what my draw odds are with 1-2 preference points. I've got a lot of research and scheming to do on that end. Assuming I can't get drawn or I do get drawn in an area I have no access, I'll default back to and OTC state.
I would second what your saying (or third because I already gave my plug earlier for archery). I shot my elk this year with a rifle, but the experience of taking the elk was not nearly as amazing as the experiences I had during the rut. And the weather was wonderful...these late snowy hunts do not have me excited about the cow tag next month!The stats will definitely tell you to go out there with a rifle, but I contend the experience had during the elk rut is what you're really after. You get one bull to come in with his eyes rolled back screaming challenge bugles at you, and that encounter will stay with you for a lifetime.
Yeah, for what it costs, I'm pretty sure I'm going to get it. Anything to shorten the learning curve.I started down the same road as you Jan 19. I devoured every podcast I could find and still think UEH was the best $$ spent. I will more than likely keep it another year and go through it again.