Went to my local store yesterday. Tried on the Salomon Quest 4ds, wanted to the like them due to price and since i have two of their regular shoes and probably will never buy another brand of shoe. For whatever reason, the toe box was too wide. Tried on some Lowa Renegades, foot fit the boot but they werent cushy at all. like walking on shaped wood. Really wanted to try some zamberlans but they didnt carry in. Came home and ordered the 960 gtx RR's. From what ive read they should fit me, if not, ill ship em on back and try the Tibets. Ill add that with the coupon code the Zams were 291 with tax and free shipping.