Rethinking "Leave no trace"

Boarmaster

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Its good to be aware. Humans impact the planet. Based on what I see on trash day in my hood Im doing my part to minimize it. I usually have one kitchen bag of trash a week. Occasionally I fill up my recycle bin. I see other driveways with two big containers both full and three or four bags laying beside them Week after week. I do live alone but holy cow some of these households make some serious trash. I wear my hunting clothing until its pretty well trashed. If I do upgrade and the clothing isbin great shape I give it away to someone that could use it or the Goodwill box. I use some electronics but I toss very few batteries a years. Most of the stuff I buy now is rechargeable. That helps not tossing 50 aaa batteries a year like I did in the past.

I used to hunt with a guy who was a litter bug. It bugged the crap out of me. I finally leaned on his azz about it. I doubt he quite it altogether but he never tossed another wrapper in the woods in front of me.
 

caesAR15

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This isn't complicated.
  • Don't litter.
  • Consume. Less. Stuff.
This applies universally; whether you're a tree hugger, 'public landowner' or MAGA man. If you care about conservation on an individual level it all boils down to Don't litter, and Consume Less Stuff.

It's easy to tell others to do these things, it's a different story when you're one being marketed to.
 

caesAR15

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This isn't complicated.
  • Don't litter.
  • Consume. Less. Stuff.
This applies universally; whether you're a tree hugger, 'public landowner' or MAGA man. If you care about conservation on an individual level it all boils down to Don't litter, and Consume Less Stuff.

It's easy to tell others to do these things, it's a different story when you're one being marketed to.

BTW, have you guys seen the new 2021 Hoyt's?? They've got the new FirstLite pattern. I'm thinking I need to ditch my 2020 Hoyt in Kuiu Optifade. Need to match my bow to the neck gaitor I'm running and my new Crispi boots. This will surely up my odds of success...
 

mauserfan

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Good thought provoking thread. It motivated me to get a pair of these tote bags for my grocery shopping.
Those are great CHINESE bags. If they were DULUTH PACK bags, they were made in Duluth, Mn. I still have my Dad's Duluth Pack from 1926, been repaired twice from bear damage.......is used every year, a lot.
 

Mosby

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Sadly the biggest promoters of these environmental lifestyle issues are phonies. Al Gore, Hollywood elites... they tell us what we should be giving up, what we don't need, what we shouldn't do, while flying on private jets, riding in limo's, driving Bentley's and going home to 20,000 foot mansions.

Worth hundreds of millions, they could care less about carbon footprint. That stuff is for the common folk and suckers IMO. Al Gore's father made millions supporting the coal industry. Al Gore got paid millions for being against it. It's all $$$, politics and power to them. They talk about global warming and rising oceans and turn around and buy multi million dollar beach properties in California and Hawaii. They don't seem to be worried about melting icebergs any time soon.

I grew up 20 miles from Woolrich. They made great stuff, it lasted forever and it weighed about 100 lbs walking up a mountain. I like to be nostalgic but it sucked. I will take the new stuff. I just wish more of it was made in the US.

I buy what's on sale and if is comfortable, I buy more of it before they stop making it. I'm frugal. I do catch and release. I only hunt what I eat. I don't leave trash in the woods or by the road. I pick up after others if I have too. I like dogs more than most people and rescue abandoned and abused animals. I do my own thing for my own reasons.
 

Jason K.Y. Wild

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What’s frustrating for me is the amount of packaging included in every thing hunting and non hunting related. You buy a trial cam and it has plastic wrapping on the cam, on the box, the battery’s are in another bag, fishing lures are even worst.


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JiminAZ

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I'm 61 so I've watched marketing/consumerism/packaging evolve over my lifetime.

One thing my parents taught me was to buy quality stuff and then use it until it is done in. I really believe in that ethic. Less stuff of higher quality is the way to go.

With that said, we are a society awash in cheap goods from globalism, etc. When I was a kid the cost of things served as a rationing mechanism. You bought less because that's what you could afford.

Cheap shit changed all that. Mountains of cheap shit. People in the US are buried in it. I'd even argue that to a certain degree, all this crap rules our lives. I think about all the appliances in the kitchen, consumer electronics, multiple tv's etc etc etc that we have today. Back then not so much.

So in this context, the plastic in my Sitka stuff doesn't worry me much. I get a ton of use out of a product that has a very low volume of plastic in it.

Meanwhile, in my day to day life, every week the "recycle" bin is just full of packaging crap. I mean all the amazon boxes and bubble wrap and that damned clamshell clear plastic that even the most basic items seem to come in nowadays.

When I was a kid we drank water from a glass or the garden hose. Coke bottles went back to the store to be reused. Our trash volume per human was just way the heck less. Most things had a price tag directly on the item and little or no packaging.

Some things have gotten better. Cars are cleaner and get better mileage. Soaps don't have phosphates, etc. Industrial waste streams, while not perfect, are way cleaned up compared to the 60's and 70's.

I try to minimize the volume of crap but the choices are poor when it comes to food and necessity packaging. The ratio of waste to product has really risen over the years.

Simplicity counts for a lot. Still, like all of us, I'm a selfish hypocrite. At times I buy stuff just because I desire it and really don't need it. When the price is low it's really easy to say "I always wanted one of those and what the heck let's get one".
 
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fshaw

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I can’t tell you how encouraging I find it to read this thread. I recently retired as a science teacher, after doing a career in the military, where I taught biology, environmental science and alternative energy among other subjects. To see this topic discussed rationally, in a thoughtful and adult manner here is encouraging. I am a member of another major outdoor website where discussions about environmental issues devolve rapidly to “climate change is a conspiracy”, and “people that are concerned with environmental issues are libtards and communists,” and on, and on, and on.

Do what you can individually, teach your children “Use it up, wear it out, make it do, do without” thanks Clarence, and work to educate yourself and others about the facts of the issues, not the partisan political BS. Never give up and remember the importance of these issues when you vote.

Makes me proud to be a member of Rokslide.

Frank Shaw
 
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