WTS SG Helio bottom Large

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I wore these as needed for a season 2020. Nice and warm but I found another that I prefer the thickness and fit of slightly more. Only wear mark I can find is left of crotch where SG pants have the Velcro zipper adjustment. Some piling there and pictured. $65 TYD PayPal fee included or I can do Venmo.
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How do they fit in the waist? What size are you normally?

I’m between a 36-38. I’ve been thinking about getting a pair of these. Does the waist bad have some stretch to it? Room in the crotch? (Im tall)


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I don’t think they will fit. I’m a 34-35” waist and always wear 34” waist pants in jeans or any hunting brand pant. I have very big thighs and legs/crotch area are good but waist wouldn’t go any bigger.
 
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@afishinman14 I tried on a large in these as I am between sizes in SG bottoms. I felt the large was too big for me. I wear 34 pants in most things and 36 in Kuiu, and the SG Helio larges "fit" but it was a loose fit and I figured they would start to sag pretty well once I started being active. There is some give in the waist for sure, but in my situation the give was easily 3-4 inches more than I needed. Also, I am 5'10" and the leg length was too long in the large.

I would order a medium for my needs, but a 36-38 waist and taller than 6' a large should fit perfect for an underlayer.
 
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Bump for a good deal.

I used this type two weeks ago on Colorado elk hunt and they were awesome. The zip on the side allowed me to cool down during a hike. Then zipped back up when cooled down glassing.


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