My SO SXL weighs about 3.6lbs with its 9' stovepipe. 3 of us backpack in with it and an SO 8 man. Its pretty manageable. We could go lighter but being able to hang out around a fire, stand, and dry stuff out even if you're socked in with weather for a couple days is awesome.It was mentioned earlier, but how do you keep the creepy crawlies out of the tipi!? and how heavy are the stoves? Do you guys carry those things far into the backcountry?