I don't want to derail this thread, but if you get a chance to explain what you love and hate about the bora.....please do. I'm comparing it to the jetstream and de Haviland.I have the Arma, it is long in the torso so great coverage of my back. I have the 3xl. The 3xl is more like a 2xl tall. It is longer than my Bora outer and Ghar puffy. I did ttry on some of the Stika hoodies, can't remember which ones but it was a light weight as the ones I remember. It's light weight, the outside material is a tight stretch (hard to describe) and the inside is a super smooth wool. I plan on using as a midlayer. Not sure of how warm it will be as we haven't had any cold weather yet. Will be testing it during 3rd season rifle in CO.