I would agree with this. I sold mine. In my hunting area I found there wasn’t enough time between switching from warmer weather stuff to my insulated bibs to really use them. That has a lot to do with temps in my area which tend to me 50-70 and then drop hard when a front comes through. For milder temps I think they would be ideal.Warmer than it seems due to windblocker. Quiet enough for hunting but not totally silent if there's ZERO wind. I liked mine but it grabbed more stick tights than I wanted. Very durable for sure (not sure what would happen if you walked through thorns or something).