So you want to shoot Trad

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Great thread with lots of good info for not only beginners, but any archer looking to take their shooting to the next level.
 

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I will add one thing that new shooters absolutely must do. Shoot a lot! You will get frustrated at first, trying different methods and having piss poor groups but eventually you'll find a sweet spot that enables you to shoot accurately, if only at 15 yards. Then start backing up in small increments...a foot to no more than 5 yards. Keep shooting. After a while the muscle memory kicks in and you can begin shooting from various distances and angles (without range finding) just from shooting naturally. You can learn to shoot a compound accurately very fast...trad is the opposite of that. My first year was brutal, now I am starting to finally get consistent. It's a love-hate sport...you will either love it or hate it. It's a lot more fun to shoot a stick bow if you enjoy a challenge...if not, stay with your CB. Trad isn't for everyone. You need the patience of Jobe to get good at it. It is an amazing feeling to hit the center of the target from something like 28 yards...a feeling you will never get from a compound. Your form is everything and that doesn't happen overnight. You need to shoot daily, even if only one arrow. Discipline is a requirement. There is a point during your trad journey where you become one with the bow and your confidence grows because you have surpassed the trials and tribulations and achieved a sense of comfort gauging distance and can just feel the sweet spot when releasing your arrow. Getting to this point requires a lot of shooting. Good luck.

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For the knowledge base;

Ex Olympian Jake Kaminsky has a series of vids on Barebow form that is excellent.

The Grip and Rip guys will find these breakdowns of the shot process tedious ( and they are!) but if you get the concepts he is teaching it will make you a better shot.

Here is one in the series;
 
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Lol... Ya the first one ain't nothing but talking about it. But ya there good, I think so anyways


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Tater, you just ooze with positivity....

Be blessed man!


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Well, I followed Asbell around a 3D course at a shoot. He was one target ahead of our group and shooting by himself. There were 4 of us in our group. We were constantly having to wait on him. He was shooting over targets, under targets, behind targets etc etc. When you watch a guy who gives seminars and writes books on trad shooting miss 3 targets in a row, none over 20 yards, you begin to realize he's all hat and no cattle. He spent more time looking for arrows than he did shooting. Another round we were behind a kid, about 6'3" using one of those 48" Bear SuperMags. Swing drawing. Straight out of the Asbell playbook. Couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, and never drew to anchor. I'm not a fan of Asbell or his shooting method. His wool stuff is pretty nice though.

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For the knowledge base;

Ex Olympian Jake Kaminsky has a series of vids on Barebow form that is excellent.

The Grip and Rip guys will find these breakdowns of the shot process tedious ( and they are!) but if you get the concepts he is teaching it will make you a better shot.

Here is one in the series;
He shot in the Known 50 class, now known as Known Pro, at an ASA shoot in London, KY several years back. Finished day 1 like 3pts off the lead. The compound guys were like "have you seen that dude shooting a recurve? He's in the top 5!". I was laughing telling them that "dude" is one of our Olympic shooters and 50yds is one of their short shots . Guess they've never watched, or shot, a field round.

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He shot in the Known 50 class, now known as Known Pro, at an ASA shoot in London, KY several years back. Finished day 1 like 3pts off the lead. The compound guys were like "have you seen that dude shooting a recurve? He's in the top 5!". I was laughing telling them that "dude" is one of our Olympic shooters and 50yds is one of their short shots . Guess they've never watched, or shot, a field round.

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Yeah. You watch these guys on TV and it doesnt really hit home But then you see them in person and you realize the vast difference between good and pro caliber.

If we can’t learn from Jakes vids …….then its on us not him.


 

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Jakes videos have already improved my shooting. Littles things I wasn't aware of. My shot cycle is smoother, I don't fight my anchor. A good overall improvement. Highly recommend anyone to atleast check them out.


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Guys you don’t need to be a perfect archer to be a great coach. A guy I teach with is state champ, his grip isn’t perfect. We don’t teach his grip but it works for him. Another instructor coached 2 girls to state champ, he doesn’t compete himself.
I agree you def need to be careful where advice comes from, lots of contradictory/confusing things things posted but the idea is a great coach/teacher/instructor, they don’t necessarily have to be a competitor themselves. Even if they are doesn’t mean you should mimic them.
This is Trad but look at Rio, (hes a compound guy he leans back far enough to be in 2 zip codes) but try and outshoot the man.
 

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ALL; Post up any of the free internet resources to improve your shooting you like.

I think the video series at 3 rivers, "Masters of the Barebow" #1 and #3 are a great resource with top pros breaking down the components of a shot....and breaking down the different aiming techniques.


Most of these guys I'm recommending on Youtube have multiple good vids in addition to the ones here;
Arne Moe
I would add that if you're anywhere near Arne (Grand Rapids, MN), drop him a message on Facebook or find his number on the NTS Coach Finder website and set up a lesson. Great guy who has invested heavily in the next gen of archers.
 

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