Talk me into ditching jetboil for MSR

Gunnersdad49

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Looking at the MSR windburner or duo. I’ve had a jetboil flash for a decade with good luck, but like the idea of a regulated burner.

I really like the windburner, but hear horror stories of them requiring a factory reset and basically going inoperable in the middle of trips.
Does anyone have any experience or insight into this?
 

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Used my wind burner for four years without a problem. Only gripe is that it’s heavy compared to something more basic like a pocket rocket and cup.
 

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Looking at the MSR windburner or duo. I’ve had a jetboil flash for a decade with good luck, but like the idea of a regulated burner.

I really like the windburner, but hear horror stories of them requiring a factory reset and basically going inoperable in the middle of trips.
Does anyone have any experience or insight into this?
I pretty much did what you're asking...I intentionally ditched my Jetboil last summer after many years using it, and I replaced it with an MSR Windburner.

I only have two trips on the Windburner...one was a two-week remote drop hunt for moose. So far no problems at all during my early stages with it, and I do really like it. My hunting partner and I both noticed right away that it sure seemed to boil water much faster, and I did comparatively conserve on fuel. I've not missed the built-in igniter at all...there is a strand of filament that stretches across the burner face, which quickly glows to tell you when you get it lite with a lighter or match.

I'm guessing that your concern may be in reference to the thermal trip mechanism? The instruction manual explains how you can reset it in the field very easily if necessary without any tools. I had no problems with it. and no resets required. Actually seems like a good safety feature that the Jetboil didn't have. Regardless, I always have an MSR Pocket-rocket with me as a back-up...even during the Jetboil years.
 

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I pretty much did what you're asking...I intentionally ditched my Jetboil last summer after many years using it, and I replaced it with an MSR Windburner.

I only have two trips on the Windburner...one was a two-week remote drop hunt for moose. So far no problems at all during my early stages with it, and I do really like it. My hunting partner and I both noticed right away that it sure seemed to boil water much faster, and I did comparatively conserve on fuel. I've not missed the built-in igniter at all...there is a strand of filament that stretches across the burner face, which quickly glows to tell you when you get it lite with a lighter or match.

I'm guessing that your concern may be in reference to the thermal trip mechanism? The instruction manual explains how you can reset it in the field very easily if necessary without any tools. I had no problems with it. and no resets required. Actually seems like a good safety feature that the Jetboil didn't have. Regardless, I always have an MSR Pocket-rocket with me as a back-up...even during the Jetboil years.
I'm like you in switching to a wind burner. Thanks for the info on the reset. I googled the instructions.

As far as a difference in the two stoves I don't really feel I gained anything other than the piece of mind. Even though my Jetboil has never given me a lick of trouble all the chatter on the forums caused me to to switch. I'll have both in the vehicle on all my trips so that I'll always have a back-up.
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look at the relatively new Pocket Rocket Deluxe- it's like a miniature blow torch, but the biggest feature is it's a regulated stove- much better performance in cold weather over a stove that isn't (ie regular Pocket Rocket)

it's also small and light
 

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Taggging in. I always hear of people having issues with JB but I’ve got a few of them all quite old modes amd they haven’t given me one single issue. BUT, I am always interested in what to get IF there happens to be a failure.
 

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Hunting partner brought the MSR on a drop AK moose hunt and it tripped out on day 8 of 10. Cooked over an open fire for the last 2 days not knowing how to reset. Since that trip I learned the simple reset operation and have bought one for myself. Besides that trip it had worked flawlessly to feed 3 hunters on a caribou hunt and several elk hunts. My Jetboil hasn’t left the garage since I purchased the Windburner.
 
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It looks like it is the Reactor, not the windburner that has to be sent in to the factory for reset. "Stove contains a device that will render it permanently inoperable if detrimental overheating occurs. Stove is not field-maintainable. If stove becomes inoperable, immediately discontinue use and return stove to an authorized MSR dealer. Attempting to circumvent and/or reset inoperable stove is an unsafe practice that can cause fire, burns, severe injury or death."
 
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Just because I'm trying to be thorough, I emailed MSR as well. They said "The Thermal Trip Mechanism is a safety feature on the WindBurner Personal stove (the remote canister windburner duo does not have this) to prevent overheating of the canister. This can be re-set in the field after waiting for the unit to cool down." and shared the same photos as Scrappy found.

So to summarize,
The Reactor is the one that has to be sent in to reset.
The WindBurner can be reset in the field
The WindBurner Duo doesn't have this shutoff feature, because the cannister is remote instead of under the burner.
 

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I have used the MSR windburner for the last 5 years without any issues or need to reset. I believe this is attributed to me using the accompanying MSR pot exclusively to avoid overheating. My buddy has the JB that we have used on several hunts. I never timed the 2 side by side but it seemed apparent that the MSR was more efficient and operated with less fuss. I also felt like we spilled a lot less hot water with the windburner than the JB...but that could have been the whisky.
 

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i need to get a MSR stove. my JetB left me sipping tepid coffee on a snowy mountain top with a bunch of nurses. total fail. we did a sunrise hike and everyone wanted coffee. hero to zero with the failed stove. hahha..
 

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I would never try to talk you out of your Jetboil. I've had mine way too long without a hiccup to suggest such a thing. Apparently, so have you. Yet, you're looking to switch to a piece of gear that you've heard horror stories about?
 
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Here’s my $.02: 15.43 oz. including 4oz fuel canister. Never had or heard first-hand of any issues with MSR. My stove is the Pocket Rocket 2. Boils water is 2 minutes. If you want lightweight fool-proof, try a Caldera Cone.






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Here’s my $.02: 15.43 oz. including 4oz fuel canister. Never had or heard first-hand of any issues with MSR. My stove is the Pocket Rocket 2. Boils water is 2 minutes. If you want lightweight fool-proof, try a Caldera Cone.






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THis is my exact setup also. Did you make that windscreen if not where did you get it? Any worry about heating the fuel can?
 

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Made the windscreen 10+ years ago out of duct available from HD. Originally built for my alcohol stoves. Am not concerned for two reasons: 1. The height of the windscreen is 1.5” below the burner, and 2. The holes at the bottom.

If anything it is designed to prevent the stove from being blown over more than minimizing wind effect on burner.


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I've used the basic stoves for a long while before moving to jet boil. I had a jet boil flash that did not want to work in tne rain once. It worked fine after the trip and never gave me issues aside from that one trip, but that was it for that unit, I moved on. Used a windburner from MSR for years, no issues at all, good stove. Does weight a lot like folks have mentioned.

Pocket rocket deluxe has the pressure regulator assembly to keep good burning rate in colder temps just like the windburner. Pair that with a Ti mug and you have a pretty light system, IF you are willing to go away from an all-in one setup. It boils fast and has a raised burner face to protect the flame from the wind a bit. Something to consider.
 

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How's this for a reason. They say a picture is worth a thousand words. Here was my Jetboil Sumo stove.

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Meanwhile, I have used the MSR Windburner and the Reactor. They both have worked absolutely flawlessly for years and years. I would never switch to another stove personally, so happy am I with MSR.
 
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