Yep , since you have stepped up on this one we should discuss it. In that thread he stated how he felt and thru most of the posts he was left with , More gates, more roadless, etc. So I can see how it would seem he is not sharing the same ideas as most on here. Thus leading to his decision . Kicker started a thread that stated how he felt and again was left with goodbye , be like Bill, etc. For a community of hunters that is just not what I would have expected. I think he had a good post just saying Goodbye and wishing everyone well. He didn't flame anyone but in the end he was left in the ashes. I don't know Kicker and don't share his feelings but it just seems the last couple threads were pretty tough. But as stated above by someone that's the internet for you.