Training tips (not intended to be argumentative)

Ch3w1e

Junior Member
Joined
Apr 9, 2021
Messages
10
Mike, could I ask about the nutrition part of training? Your original post mentioned that you majored in nutrition and fitness. I was wondering if you had advice on food groups, eating patterns and food combinations that help make training more effective and keep the body in good shape and the mind sharp? What I've found as I've gotten older is most eat-out cuisine just wrecks my body. While it's good eating sometimes, the composition of fats, carbs, etc. just wreck havoc on my metabolic system. I do a lot of active sports throughout the year and I can definitely feel it when I'm not eating right.

I'm not actually thinking about diets per say. Those seem mostly like fads to me. And the basic stuff on trails like staying hydrated and keeping electrolytes in, everyone talks about. I'm wondering more about the nutrition that's going to build and maintain the body/mind in the long run.
 

bozeman

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 5, 2016
Messages
1,302
Location
Alabama
As I have aged (early 40's), fasting has shown benefit to not just how I feel, but digestion/heartburn.....any thoughts on 'fasting' throughout the week/month?
 

MeatMissile

Member
Joined
Apr 5, 2021
Messages
89
Location
Washington
As I have aged (early 40's), fasting has shown benefit to not just how I feel, but digestion/heartburn.....any thoughts on 'fasting' throughout the week/month?
Fasting has helped me settle issues with my digestive tract that I was never able to resolve through my doctor, with medication, or probiotics.

I have dealt with an irritable gut for 20 years. As I got older, I also started to have issues with blood sugar. I didn’t understand why, as I felt I was eating “better”. I was eating breakfast, and small meals throughout the day. When I was younger, I ate at 11 AM and 4 PM and that was it.

I was arguing with a vegan about how biologically and physiologically incorrect her diet was, and I realized that I eat a mostly carnivorous diet but I don’t eat like a carnivore. I had overburdened my digestive tract.

Once I went back to eating one or two meals per day, and giving my guts a 16 to 20 hour break, I quit having unpredictable and inconvenient urges to use the bathroom and the overall feeling of gut-rot. My reflux also seemed to be resolved.

I then got a glucose test kit and checked my blood sugar every 2 hours for a week. I noticed a trend of when my sugars were the highest. Even when I fast, I have a spike between 5 and 7 AM. I figured that eating traditional breakfast was adding energy/sugar to an already sugar-high part of my day. I quit eating during this time period completely and my A1C went back to normal and I started losing weight.
 

MattTx

Newbie
Joined
Apr 4, 2020
Messages
7
i used to do the farmers walk for 6-8hrs a day at work. carrying a 28lb bucket of tomatoes on each side up to 100ft then emptying them into a large 'bin' at waist height. around 850-900 buckets would have been the biggest day.

i've often thought that hard labor is the old school 'gym'. think about it, who used to go to the gym in the old days? you didn't need to, you got payed for that.
it is great for mental conditioning too IMO. it's tough at the time but adversity fosters resilience. mentally, if you can do physical labor all day for 'the man', then doing physical labor for something your passionate about comes easy. you can pound that trail to your honey hole no problem.
Right on!
 

mtwarden

Senior Member
Joined
Oct 18, 2016
Messages
4,421
Location
Montana
^ When I was sawing in the woods (30+ years ago :)), the last thing I thought about was working out. Humping a big chainsaw (along with oil&gas/a small axe/wedges/tools/etc) up and down steep mountains made elk hunting on the weekends pretty easy. Also we knew exactly where elk were hanging out :D
 

Ch3w1e

Junior Member
Joined
Apr 9, 2021
Messages
10
As I have aged (early 40's), fasting has shown benefit to not just how I feel, but digestion/heartburn.....any thoughts on 'fasting' throughout the week/month?
I know some folks who do fast every now and then. I think it's more a once a few months sort of thing. From what I've asked about it, it's about purging the body and returning it to a clear metabolic baseline. It does seem to work well for them.

Personally, I don't get any benefits. It just makes me feel weak and it's harder to think. On the other hand, the folks I know who do fast, do that over a longer period. Something I've never done that.

There is one thing I do that I think does help with digestion / heartburn. It's something I observed from my grandpa. He tended to sleep head and upper body elevated. I have a bed wedge that gives me a slight incline. I don't notice it when I sleep, but I think it helps keep everything in the stomach in the stomach.
 

*zap*

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 20, 2018
Messages
3,203
Location
N/E Kansas
The best physical training is done in a manner that it will force your body to change at the cellular and anatomical/muscular level. It really does not matter whether your a bodybuilder or a ultra runner that type of change is what the winners are working for and their programs are designed for that.

The 8 week fitness plan or similar plans falls way short of those goals...as does the 2 day a week plan.
Volume/frequency/intensity and duration needs to be at a high level to force those changes and you need to know when to lay off and recover.

jmo.

I think intermittent fasting or eating in an 8 hour window each 24 hours is a good fat loss plan up to a point.....that point being a lower body fat % and a lot also depends on volume/frequency/intensity of your program. It is also supposed to be very good for hormone and general health. I can do it about 40% of the time with no problem but not all the time.....I just go by how I feel at that time...

I never did multi day fasting.
 
Top