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in the years I've been using (and supplying) the Roll A Cots I've slept more often w/o a pad than with, works just fine for me - there is a reason outfitters use Roll A Cot products FYI …..Can I run a cot without a pad? Wouldn't want the weight of both but like the idea of a bit of elevation. Seems like some heat and comfort (for this belly sleeper) would be lost.
I have a Helinox Cot One and I used it 10 days last season. It's awesome. It assembles easily, doesn't give much, and is spacious.
I also tried it side-by-side with the Cot Lite model. It is much lighter. Lighter material, thinner tubes, smaller legs. While it is also very nice, I'm planning on taking the weight penalty and keeping the Cot One. It is almost a coin flip though. They're both very nice but very different.
If you count ounces go with the Cot Lite. If you want more support, go with the Cot One.
I've also owned the Thermarest and both Helinox models are much nicer in my opinion. Faster assembly by a long shot, better design, and more robust construction.
do you have the leg kit for the cot one? or see a place where you may use it?
I’ve been using a Helinox Lite now for a couple years and all I can say is, it sets up in a snap, is about the lightest cot available, and is very comfortable. I don’t use it for every outing or hunt, but I always get a good nights sleep when I do use it. Mine weighs 44.2 oz. in the stuff sack.
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I would say that if you're using it in temps colder than the mid 60's, you'll probably want some sort of pad. I use a cut down, 6-7 oz., Z-lite Sol pad with mine and it's worked fine in temps down to the mid 30's. The only problem I've ever had is when/if I come off the pad in the middle of the night, it can get really cold really quick. I've found that the best way for me to deal with this is to either strap my pad to my cot, or use an UL bivy to contain everything and use that on top of the cot.Not wanting to hijack this thread but I’m considering going to a cot, probably the Helinox. I currently use an xtherm and a quilt, my question for those with experience is, can I ditch my pad and use the cot only or is the heat loss going to be significant ??
a blanket over the cot that hangs down to near the ground works just as well as anything "insulated" as it's just air flow that allows the cold to permeateI would say that if you're using it in temps colder than the mid 60's, you'll probably want some sort of pad. I use a cut down, 6-7 oz., Z-lite Sol pad with mine and it's worked fine in temps down to the mid 30's. The only problem I've ever had is when/if I come off the pad in the middle of the night, it can get really cold really quick. I've found that the best way for me to deal with this is to either strap my pad to my cot, or use an UL bivy to contain everything and use that on top of the cot.
a blanket over the cot that hangs down to near the ground works just as well as anything "insulated" as it's just air flow that allows the cold to permeate
Assuming your talking about a blanket that is also covering the person sleeping on the cot? I think that would work ok in moderate temps but I still think a person would have issues when the ground temp is colder.a blanket over the cot that hangs down to near the ground works just as well as anything "insulated" as it's just air flow that allows the cold to permeate
not a blanket that also covers the sleeper - it is simply to block air from circulating beneath the sleeper - I have "covers" I sewed from 10 oz canvas that just slip over each cot and hang to the cot's feet, you can still put things under pretty easily - to be honest when we all used to have duffels that just slid under the cots I think it was nearly as efficient, we have tried the lower closer to the ground cots but honestly they are not nearly as convenient for putting on boots and such or just casually sitting on - the ONLY downside to the Roll a Cots we've found is the straight feet/legs can sink into the ground and empty tuna cans solved thatAssuming your talking about a blanket that is also covering the person sleeping on the cot? I think that would work ok in moderate temps but I still think a person would have issues when the ground temp is colder.
not a blanket that also covers the sleeper - it is simply to block air from circulating beneath the sleeper - I have "covers" I sewed from 10 oz canvas that just slip over each cot and hang to the cot's feet, you can still put things under pretty easily - to be honest when we all used to have duffels that just slid under the cots I think it was nearly as efficient, we have tried the lower closer to the ground cots but honestly they are not nearly as convenient for putting on boots and such or just casually sitting on - the ONLY downside to the Roll a Cots we've found is the straight feet/legs can sink into the ground and empty tuna cans solved that