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To those unaware Montana state legislature is trying to enact constitutional carry legislation currently and it is being meant with fierce opposition. Including Kimber's former VP. I do not live in the state but thought I would share my opinion (for what it is worth). This will be a bit long winded for those willing to stay.
I'll preface this saying I am a firearms instructor as well who makes profit off of teaching concealed carry classes among other things to students. So I have a vested interest in having students come to train and receive certification before getting their permits through the state.
I fully support constitutional carry, I do think training should be sought after but in no way shape or form should it be a requirement. Individual responsibility should dictate what you need to do not government bureaucrats. I also live in a recently enacted constitutional carry state.
Whenever it was passed through my home state just as many of the other 15 states with constitutional carry legislation it was meant with fierce opposition from both the openly anti gun crowd as well as the "pro 2a but" crowd with all the typical mumblings about "it'll be like the wild west", "shootings on every corner", "think about the children" and all the other mantra that goes along with it. None of that happened and violent crime has decreased.
This needs addressed though it is bad enough we have to fight the antis without having to fight our supposed supporters as well.
Self defense is a right granted to us by God and the only reason we have a constitution is to prevent government overreach it is prescriptive for what bounds authorities have to govern within, not for what we are limited in as citizens.
The "Pro 2-a but" crowd has let in over the past 40 years all sorts of nonsense legislation that does nothing to prevent crime or "gun violence" but only serves to restrict otherwise law-abiding citizens rights. We are at a impasse as a community to sit idle and do nothing (how we got to this point) or take a stand together against all future gun control and go on the offensive to take back what is granted to us by our Creator, not man.
I would hope some within the passive group of hunters and sport shooters would see this even though it doesn't directly effect them (for now) and take the time to voice for it. I am not saying everyone needs to be armed, but those of us who desire to be as defenders have a absolute right to and collectively our community can make a difference.
Constitutional carry is a civil right and should be unrestricted, arbitrary lines shouldn't dictate where you are allowed to defend yourself.
I encourage all of you reading this to contact your state representatives to oppose any restrictions on any of our liberties and to encourage pro 2a legislation through your statehouses.
That includes your congressman and senators on both the federal and state level. It takes 10 minutes of time to pen a letter or make a phonecall or do both weekly.
We should also be reaching out within our community to help shine light on these issues, not with the I'm right your wrong attitude either, but with sincere dialogue with our community members and voicing the concern of why we feel that way.
I'd also like to encourage everyone to try and find someone on the fence about guns and take them out to the range for a day, I have yet to have one leave unhappy and though we disagree on virtually every other policy afterwards they tend to come around to the idea of being armed and lose the "guns are evil" mindset.
The banter back and forth and argument online doesn't get us anywhere but community outreach will and we can not sit idle any longer if we want any hope of defending what liberty we have left.
We can all be more involved, myself included as I'm more reclusive by nature, if I can get out and talk to my community you all can as well.
I'll preface this saying I am a firearms instructor as well who makes profit off of teaching concealed carry classes among other things to students. So I have a vested interest in having students come to train and receive certification before getting their permits through the state.
I fully support constitutional carry, I do think training should be sought after but in no way shape or form should it be a requirement. Individual responsibility should dictate what you need to do not government bureaucrats. I also live in a recently enacted constitutional carry state.
Whenever it was passed through my home state just as many of the other 15 states with constitutional carry legislation it was meant with fierce opposition from both the openly anti gun crowd as well as the "pro 2a but" crowd with all the typical mumblings about "it'll be like the wild west", "shootings on every corner", "think about the children" and all the other mantra that goes along with it. None of that happened and violent crime has decreased.
This needs addressed though it is bad enough we have to fight the antis without having to fight our supposed supporters as well.
Self defense is a right granted to us by God and the only reason we have a constitution is to prevent government overreach it is prescriptive for what bounds authorities have to govern within, not for what we are limited in as citizens.
The "Pro 2-a but" crowd has let in over the past 40 years all sorts of nonsense legislation that does nothing to prevent crime or "gun violence" but only serves to restrict otherwise law-abiding citizens rights. We are at a impasse as a community to sit idle and do nothing (how we got to this point) or take a stand together against all future gun control and go on the offensive to take back what is granted to us by our Creator, not man.
I would hope some within the passive group of hunters and sport shooters would see this even though it doesn't directly effect them (for now) and take the time to voice for it. I am not saying everyone needs to be armed, but those of us who desire to be as defenders have a absolute right to and collectively our community can make a difference.
Constitutional carry is a civil right and should be unrestricted, arbitrary lines shouldn't dictate where you are allowed to defend yourself.
I encourage all of you reading this to contact your state representatives to oppose any restrictions on any of our liberties and to encourage pro 2a legislation through your statehouses.
That includes your congressman and senators on both the federal and state level. It takes 10 minutes of time to pen a letter or make a phonecall or do both weekly.
We should also be reaching out within our community to help shine light on these issues, not with the I'm right your wrong attitude either, but with sincere dialogue with our community members and voicing the concern of why we feel that way.
I'd also like to encourage everyone to try and find someone on the fence about guns and take them out to the range for a day, I have yet to have one leave unhappy and though we disagree on virtually every other policy afterwards they tend to come around to the idea of being armed and lose the "guns are evil" mindset.
The banter back and forth and argument online doesn't get us anywhere but community outreach will and we can not sit idle any longer if we want any hope of defending what liberty we have left.
We can all be more involved, myself included as I'm more reclusive by nature, if I can get out and talk to my community you all can as well.