Formidilosus
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Ryan Avery asked if I would review this scope in the same vein as the Meopta Optika 6 and Tanget Theta evaluations and I agreed. I get queried about these scopes almost as much as any, and even though I have seen poor performance from the prior LHT’s, this is a different design and will be looked at with objectivity.
This thread will be similar to the others; focusing almost exclusively on correct function, and less on looks or “glass”. Those topics are beaten to death and they have little to do with use as an aiming device. It will be mounted correctly on a rifle/rifles that are proven shooters with large shot groups sizes, with bonded chassis ensuring that the rifle(s) are not the cause of any issues if found.
As it sits now-
Turrets:
Elevation Turret is a lockable pull-up/push down type:
Locked
Unlocked
“RevStop” ring. It’s a zero stop. Drop in, twist the ring that says “ROTATE TO STOP” clockwise until it stops. Zero stop is set. It will allow .5 mils under zero.
Windage is the standard capped type. It is not rotation limited.
The elevation turret feel is distinct, yet rounded or soft. 6 mils per rev. Locking is positive, yet takes very little pressure to unlock. Windage turret feels like a standard capped turret- soft and very mushy. Neither turret has revolution indicators.
XLR-2 MRAD Reticle:
4.5x
22x
The reticle is in general one of the common tree reticle designs with a center dot and .2 mil increments in the horizontal line, .5 mil increments on the vertical, with dots at .2 mil increments for the tree. Also on the horizontal and vertical stadia above center starting at 4 mils, it goes to .1 mil increments. It is illuminated.
Initial thoughts:
The turrets not having a revolution indicator isn’t ideal. The elevation isn’t completely necessary as with the RevStop ring you only get 11 mils up anyways. However the windage is not rotation limited and having a way to ensure the windage is on the correct rev is better, and should be included whether it’s a rev indicator or a rotation limited turret. I don’t really care too much about how the turrets feel as long as they aren’t horrible and they work. They’re usable as is, though the marketing needs to stop on the weird adjustments per rev- make them 5, 10, or 20 mils per rev. Again it’s isn’t a huge deal, but no matter how you slice it, your brain can deal with counting up from 5 or 10 mils per rev when you go past the first revolution, rather than 6 or 12 mils.
This scope is marketed as a hunting scope, a western, rugged hunting scope to be exact. Yet, once again we get a reticle that is a PRS/dedicated LR design- extremely thin with the thick outer bars spaced too far from center (10mils), and with a tree. Marketing. No one is holding ten mils worth of wind- ever. And no one that is hunting is holding 10 mils of elevation with 6 mils of wind on the tree. These reticles keep being designed for how people “think” they might use a scope, not for how they actually do use them. I won’t say that it’s invisible or useless on low power without illumination, but it is subpar and will more than likely be totally unusable in some legal light hunting conditions without the illumination.
Shooting starts tomorrow.
This thread will be similar to the others; focusing almost exclusively on correct function, and less on looks or “glass”. Those topics are beaten to death and they have little to do with use as an aiming device. It will be mounted correctly on a rifle/rifles that are proven shooters with large shot groups sizes, with bonded chassis ensuring that the rifle(s) are not the cause of any issues if found.
As it sits now-
Turrets:
Elevation Turret is a lockable pull-up/push down type:
Locked
Unlocked
“RevStop” ring. It’s a zero stop. Drop in, twist the ring that says “ROTATE TO STOP” clockwise until it stops. Zero stop is set. It will allow .5 mils under zero.
Windage is the standard capped type. It is not rotation limited.
The elevation turret feel is distinct, yet rounded or soft. 6 mils per rev. Locking is positive, yet takes very little pressure to unlock. Windage turret feels like a standard capped turret- soft and very mushy. Neither turret has revolution indicators.
XLR-2 MRAD Reticle:
4.5x
22x
The reticle is in general one of the common tree reticle designs with a center dot and .2 mil increments in the horizontal line, .5 mil increments on the vertical, with dots at .2 mil increments for the tree. Also on the horizontal and vertical stadia above center starting at 4 mils, it goes to .1 mil increments. It is illuminated.
Initial thoughts:
The turrets not having a revolution indicator isn’t ideal. The elevation isn’t completely necessary as with the RevStop ring you only get 11 mils up anyways. However the windage is not rotation limited and having a way to ensure the windage is on the correct rev is better, and should be included whether it’s a rev indicator or a rotation limited turret. I don’t really care too much about how the turrets feel as long as they aren’t horrible and they work. They’re usable as is, though the marketing needs to stop on the weird adjustments per rev- make them 5, 10, or 20 mils per rev. Again it’s isn’t a huge deal, but no matter how you slice it, your brain can deal with counting up from 5 or 10 mils per rev when you go past the first revolution, rather than 6 or 12 mils.
This scope is marketed as a hunting scope, a western, rugged hunting scope to be exact. Yet, once again we get a reticle that is a PRS/dedicated LR design- extremely thin with the thick outer bars spaced too far from center (10mils), and with a tree. Marketing. No one is holding ten mils worth of wind- ever. And no one that is hunting is holding 10 mils of elevation with 6 mils of wind on the tree. These reticles keep being designed for how people “think” they might use a scope, not for how they actually do use them. I won’t say that it’s invisible or useless on low power without illumination, but it is subpar and will more than likely be totally unusable in some legal light hunting conditions without the illumination.
Shooting starts tomorrow.
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